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[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yes, but he's also the disease personified and amplified into a real life supervillain. And the world doesn't have a superhero to stop him.

[–] rando895@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I "know" this is a metaphor, and I'm being a wet blanket about it, but I'm saying it anyway. There is no super hero to save anyone from anything, much less a society circulating the drain. The only way to make things better is by getting organized with your friends, family, and neighbours.

Be prepared (collectively) when things go to shit, and actively try to make them better. You can do very little alone, but together the choice is no longer between Hitler and Hitler, it's change or stagnation. And neither genocide Joe or Cheetos man will lead to any positive progress.

Okay, no more wet blanket.....

[–] silkroadtraveler@lemmy.today 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Too bad my family and friends predominantly run the gamut from ‘lit the match walk away’ Trumpers to current supporters. Same with most my friends. Sucks to wake up at 35 and realize you have only a few non-fascist acquaintances and family. And many of them either directly work for the government or are government contractors.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I call them out when they start talking shit. Like, learn about the circumstances and facts of the Boston Tea Party and Boston Massacre. When they talk about any issue, relate it back to how they would have 100% supported the Redcoats in Boston circa 1770s, and how they are actually un-American, not lovers of freedom.

Ripe topics for economics, taxation, use of force, state power, private property rights, representation, protest and dissent, etc. Often I get them to dig in on their issue first. They all learned in elementary school that the British were the bad guys in that war and it's hilarious to watch their tiny lizard brains explode when they confront the hypocrisy they've abided since they formed their initial world views. Haha, dummies.

[–] blightbow@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Supervillain is giving him too much credit. I'll grant you that he's a cartoon character, but cartoon supervillains have more complexity than him.

Kanye and Musk embody a nearly identical archetype and we'd have the exact same problem if they ran for president and succeeded. The cult of personality that follows shitty celebrities is a self-perpetuating one. It's rooted in nasty people admiring how important people can be nasty like them but without tangible social consequences. They form a mob around their cult heroes for that exact reason, strength in numbers. A safe space for the trash of humanity.

People in politics and business find Trump useful because he'll open doors for them in exchange for attention. They get cozy with leading him around by the nose with that attention until they forget that he will backstab them when they stop giving him that attention or there is more value in betraying them. Musk does the exact same shit, so again, I don't think that Trump himself is worthy of being viewed in the light you're giving him. Similarly shitty celebrities are drop in replacements for him, and worse, they might be more intelligent in their cruelty.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Cromulent points all around.

[–] RIPandTERROR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think instead of a superhero I would prefer the punisher

[–] Frog-Brawler@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] RIPandTERROR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Uhhhhh... No. He's a anti-hero on his best day and a straight up terrorist realistically. Literally. He is a Terror-ist. And a hyper violent one at that. You may agree with his reasoning and even his methods, but both the character, and even the writer, don't consider frank castle to even be a "good guy".

[–] Frog-Brawler@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Frank Castle isn’t the Punisher right now, it’s Joe Garrison and he worked for SHIELD prior to taking on the title.

[–] Pretzilla@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Together we can stop him