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Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive (signal.org)
submitted 1 year ago by u_tamtam@programming.dev to c/technology@lemmy.world
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[–] u_tamtam@programming.dev 90 points 1 year ago (31 children)

A more accurate title could be "Privacy is Priceless, but Centralization is Expensive": with the era of cheap money coming to an end, grows a lot of uncertainty regarding the future of some large internet services. Signal is no exception and this emphasises the importance of federated alternatives (XMPP, fediverse, …) for the good health of the future internet.

[–] comfydecal@infosec.pub 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Have any suggestions for "normies" on iPhone and Android that aren't Signal?

[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

SimpleX or any XMPP with OMEMO

[–] furzegulo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

+1 for simplex

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

matrix comes to mind, get element on iOS and Android (Fdroid or play store)

[–] u_tamtam@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If those "normies" aren't turned away by the creation of an account (and if they can use Amazon, I doubt it's an issue), they can certainly use XMPP :)

Here to pick a provider:
https://providers.xmpp.net/

Here for the software:
https://xmpp.org/software/?platform=android

https://xmpp.org/software/?platform=ios

[–] tcely@fosstodon.org 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I surely do!

Try Session or SimpleX or Threema.

Threema is the oldest and most polished option. You do have to buy a license for a one-time fee though. It's entirely worth the play store credit I spent, but if I were to buy now, I'd use their website store so I could use the open source app instead.

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[–] u_tamtam@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

I cannot really root for threema here because of its centralized nature, although I do appreciate that it has a saner business model than Signal

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