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White House says it has evidence Hamas using Al Shifa hospital to run military actions
(www.reuters.com)
this post was submitted on 14 Nov 2023
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By stopping their occupation of Gaza.
Then why did the UN condemn it as a war crime? And why are they using white phosphorus and deliberately leading civilians to bombing targets?
Gaza has not been occupied for over 15 years. Please get informed. This is not counter insurgency.
White phosphorous is used for illumination and obscuration and Israel is not signatory to the conventions banning its use wholesale. Nor is Russia or the United States. Offensive use is considered illegal to use in densely populated areas but so far there is only evidence for the offensive use in less dense areas to my knowledge.
Proving intent on deliberately leading civilians to bombing targets is going to be a high bar. Israel urged civilians to go south to avoid the heavy combat operations entering Gaza City. That doesn't mean they are not going to strike targets in the south and pointing in that general vicinity and shouting "SEE" does not mean they deliberately misled civilians. Their goal is to minimize civilian casualties. They will be taking both the north and the south before the end. That still requires shaping operations as Hamas is moving supplies through that area and still occupies it.
Again, literally every army on earth would do this. Some wouldn't even warn civilians to move like we saw with Russia in Ukraine.
Okay, explain why almost all human rights NGOs (including the UN) say that Gaza is still occupied. This is a counter insurgency.
That's not what I'm talking about. There have been multiple incidents of Israel saying "go to this location to avoid being bombed" then bombing the location they specified. And they did the same with escape routes they specified for Gazans. I can provide links.
When did Israel provide a location that was anything more specific than the south?
They do it a lot before bombing specific targets. It used to be the norm for them, but in this ~~ethnic cleansing~~ war they dropped it as a policy. Like "we'll bomb the area, go to XX square to avoid being bombed". They also announced "safe" routes for fleeing to the south so people don't get bombed, then bombed them.
I'm tired of arguing without a source. I'm still waiting on literally anyone to provide the source for when the IDF cited specific locations to go other than south.
Oh you could've just said so at first. Here's an example:
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-palestine-war-gaza-area-bombed-after-warning-to-move
They were told to head south and out of Gaza City. City center is south of Beit Hanoun but not out of Gaza City. This is typical stretching of the truth and not a source that provides what Israel actually said.
This does not meet the burden of proof. Not at all. It is a great example of propaganda through.
Bruh, this has nothing to do with the evacuation order out of Northern Gaza, and actually came before it. I'm not even sure what you're complaining about.
That's exactly why it's not relevant. I'm not the one screaming war crimes.