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The armed wing of the Palestinian militant group Hamas said on Monday it told Qatari mediators the group was ready to release up to 70 women and children held in Gaza in return for a five-day truce with Israel.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

All of Hamas is an "armed wing" the legitimate government is the Palestinian Authority...

Israel wants to act like Hamas is a democratically elected government to justify an all out "war".

The last time citizens of Gaza got to have an election, half the current residents weren't born yet, Hamas was the "moderate" option, and Hamas still didn't get a majority of votes.

Acting like Hamas is a real government is just some bullshit Israel says, because that helps Israel's rightwing extremists stay in office. Neither of those two want peace

[–] Astrealix@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hamas is a real government, and is in charge of Gaza — the PA is not in charge of Gaza. It is also a terrorist organisation, and is also basically not democratically elected. But the people of Gaza should not be held responsible for their government's folly and terrorism. But it is important to recognise that de facto Hamas is the government of Gaza.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hamas is a real government, and is in charge of Gaza

What are they actually in charge of?

They don't control utilities or emergency services, and I doubt they're doing schools either.

It's not a government, because they don't do any of the duties are government is supposed to do.

[–] 5BC2E7@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They demonstrated complete control over their water infrastructure when they dismantled it to build more rockets. They recorded themselves while doing so and its easy to find this footage for those that doubt any inconvenient facts about them.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago

By that logic the crackheads stealing copper are the head of HOAs...

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

They are probably acting that way because they have a history of promoting Hamas. They helped find the start of it and Netanyahu pushed to strengthen it to weaken the PLO.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/07/30/how-israel-helped-create-hamas/

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/