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    An unbiased comparison of linux distributions' setup (sh.itjust.works)
    submitted 1 year ago by _cnt0@sh.itjust.works to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
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    [–] cpw@lemmy.ca 49 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Debian guy could have just downloaded the nonfree installer that includes some common wifi and other hardware firmwares. There are some pragmatists at Debian.

    [–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Also... It's included in all versions starting with Bookworm.

    [–] n00b001@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Well... Say that to my live USB I tried booting off of a machine with a very modern nVidia card. I had to create a new boot entry to disable nouveau and install nVidia proprietary graphics into a persistent partition.

    I understand nVidia is shit, and doesn't play nice with others. But my point is - it's not always that easy. (I thought it would be! I lost many hours, and pulled out lots of hair!)

    [–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    The boot entry is for secure boot. It would be required by any distro not just Debian.

    [–] n00b001@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

    It's not related to secure boot (I have that disabled) it's related to nouveu drivers not supporting the 4090 (yet)

    [–] _cnt0@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

    Not in the good old days. Back in 2000something I built a custom installer image with a backported kernel from testing and some firmware to get debian installed on a new laptop.

    [–] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

    Agree but Debian is still damn manual compared to many Fedora quality of life improvements.

    Meanwhile, removing snaps and replacing with flatpaks on a set up ubuntu system is crazy! All those loop mounts suddenly start showing up when snapd is gone

    [–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

    before debian 12 though, it was kinda hard to find the nonfree netinstaller on their site