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[–] nebula42@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You don't need a VPN when you use tor. In fact, it's probably less secure since it's going through a private server that might have a government black box hooked up. Also, no FBI or CIA agent is ever gonna tell you to use tor???

[–] PleasantAura@lemmy.one 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

This guy has been spamming garbage everywhere. sh.itjust.works is a terrible instance with no moderation and this quality of post is pretty normal from users there. I don't know why they haven't been defederated en masse when other less spammy/disruptive instances that actually contribute to discussions have been.

[–] SkySyrup@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You’re accusing thousands of good, active members over a few bad ones. Also defederation should not be thrown around lightly.

[–] PleasantAura@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't say "defederate them"; I said that I didn't know why other instances were defederated when that instance is worse. I intentionally didn't say defederation is bad or good because that's irrelevant.

Also, different people have different views on defederation and its relation to the Fediverse. In my experience, curating away from content harmful to your users is important to creating healthy communities.

[–] SkySyrup@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I apologize for accusing you of wanting to defederate. I must have misread.

[–] Certainly_No_Brit@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

When using Tor over VPN, the data going through the VPN's server is already encrypted for Tor, but your IP is visible to the "black box". Your anonymity should theoretically still be in effect even if someone reads your traffic.

When using VPN over Tor, the data itself isn't encrypted by Tor anymore, but the IP isn't your original IP, but the exit node's. Your anonymity depends on how you paid for the VPN (Monero > Cash by mail > Credit card).

There is no evidence that the Tor network is compromised by the US government. It's an open source network run by many volunteers all over the world. No FBI or CIA agent is ever gonna tell you to use Tor.

[–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] plague_sapiens@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Tor traffic is for some ppl a no go. Better obfuscate it with bridges or use a VPN then.

Think of this: You're hosting a darknet market and there's lots of traffic going on your site. That Tor traffic can be used to find your server, which uses Tor connections and has a lot of Tor traffic. Oh w8 thats bad. With a VPN you can hide that lots of Tor traffic is coming from your server.