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[–] Unaware7013@kbin.social 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

None? People don’t starve to death in western countries. And where they do the issue is lack of infrastructure.

"This thing doesn't happen, and when it does, it's not the fault of capitalism itself" is a monumentally stupid argument. Especially when talking about the homeless population, which absolutely does have people that starve.

A communist government couldn’t conjure the resources needed to build that out of thin air either.

And the capitalist economy chose not to build it because it wasn't profitable, or after it was built, it was too expensive to be used.

[–] Smk@lemmy.ca -2 points 10 months ago

Where is your great communist country ?? Oh wait, it's not there. It doesn't exist and it never will. Capitalism works. Not perfect but it works. Your idealized version of communism is great but so is my idealized version of capitalism where everyone has a shot at the American dream!

[–] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world -4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I said it doesn't happen in the west, not that it doesn't happen anywhere. Please learn to read.

[–] Perfide@reddthat.com 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Bullshit it doesn't happen in the west. 12.8% of US households were considered food insecure in 2022, with 5.1% of that being considered to have VERY low food security(Source). Over 20,000 Americans died of malnutrition in 2022, more than double the number in 2018(Source).

There's also nearly 30 vacant homes for every 1 homeless person in the US, so there's plenty of room, too. Nobody needs a 2nd home when over half a million people don't even have one.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Show me one photograph of a person starving in the west.

[–] Faresh@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

In the west, the main cause of malnutrition isn't a lack of calories, but a difficulty in access (from availability or price or other factors) to healthy foods with the required nutrition for a healthy life or from an excess of certain nutrients. This is often manifested as conditions such a obesity and type II diabetes. So malnutrition does impact people in the west.

[–] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe you should have actually read that article before linking it. It discusses in detail the reasons for malnutrition being an issue, and none of those reasons is being unable to afford food. The problems are typically due to age and diseases.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -1 points 10 months ago

I’ve been unable to afford food before, and I didn’t go hungry. People just gave me tons of free food.