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[–] irmoz@reddthat.com -5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you want to fight a class war, you're a communist

[–] Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] irmoz@reddthat.com -4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

What ideology is it, again, that champions working class people to take their power back? It's certainly not right wing.

If you think the world is fucked because of the greed of the 1%, and you want those people to pay for their crimes through class war, you're communist.

[–] Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Take their power back and give it to the ruling class government you say?

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Lol no, I do not say. No ruling class. No government. That's communism.

It's bonkers to me that you talk a big talk about class and class conflict, yet are opposed to left wing politics. Where do you think those terms come from?

What's even more bonkers is that you seem to think communism has never said anything about the 1%, when that is the biggest problem communists won't shut up about!

[–] Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Now you're literally saying that I'm saying or thinking something

Huge issues with that kind of projection

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't think you know what projection is. The comment I replied to literally said that the 1% and class are the problem, and that communists are distracted. Couldn't be more off base.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Man you communists need to figure out how to cope with the existence of written records

Here’s you:

The comment I replied to literally said that the 1% and class are the problem, and that communists are distracted

Actually it said this:

Take their power back and give it to the ruling class government you say?

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This is the comment I replied to:

It’s simple… If you convince the communists that the capitalists are trying to destroy them, (and vice versa), they fight each other, distracting them from the real enemy: the 1% with enough money to directly influence the folk that make the rules that keep them in the 1% club. We’re fighting culture wars so we won’t fight class wars, my friend.

https://reddthat.com/comment/4678920

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What ideology is it, again, that champions working class people to take their power back?

That sounds like a free market to me. When people have the power to determine their own fate, and how they engage with others for economic coordination.

When everyone has the ability to choose how they engage, that’s called a free market. The economic system based on free markets is called capitalism.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That sounds like a free market to me

A free market means zero regulation, so I hope you like drinking poison because "ain't no gubmint telling me how to bottle my soda!"

When people have the power to determine their own fate, and how they engage with others for economic coordination.

This requires kicking capital out of the economy. That would be defeating capitalism.

When everyone has the ability to choose how they engage, that’s called a free market

No, it's called voluntary participation. Free markets inevitably trend toward monopolies and concentrations of power, because the supply side is not held to any standard.

The economic system based on free markets is called capitalism.

And look where it's gotten us - with a 1% bleeding the rest dry.