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[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Every time I see this question, I have to wonder if it's genuine. Are you genuinely at a loss to come up with a standard for what's acceptable? Is this really difficult for you to imagine? Or are you just pretending to struggle, for rhetorical effect, because you secretly long to be intolerant and are trying to find a way to pooh-pooh requests for tolerance? Idk. You could just be stupid, and "intolerance means not allowing other ways of life to exist" is too difficult for you to understand.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because it always cones down to an entirely individualized arbitrary standard.

As neat as the meme is, it just abstracts the problem another level.

A level that still looks very similar to mob rule.

The thoughts and ideas that drive progress rarely start from the middle of society.

And in times of rising authoritarianism the tendency of the center mob to excise and exclude overreaches and leads to an era of fascism.

So, rhetorically, what im worried about is how the circle of tolerance always shrinks. Im worried how some use the line of tolerance as a weapon to control thoughts of others.

Is that stupid to you? Any other names you want to call me in the name of tolerance?

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago

Because it always cones down to an entirely individualized arbitrary standard.

No, it doesn't, and pretending so will not make your case any more convincing.

As neat as the meme is, it just abstracts the problem another level.

A level that still looks very similar to mob rule.

Explain how not accepting hatred and bigotry is "mob rule" and not just "keeping peace", thanks.

The thoughts and ideas that drive progress rarely start from the middle of society.

True but irrelevant. What is your point, here?

And in times of rising authoritarianism the tendency of the center mob to excise and exclude overreaches and leads to an era of fascism.

"In times of rising authoritarianism", sure. But waves of democratic protest for popular movements is not rising authoritarianism. It's rising libertarianism, the exact opposite.

So, rhetorically, what im worried about is how the circle of tolerance always shrinks.

Such as when, and how? When do those pushing for tolerance ever "shrink their circle"? You're just making this up.

Im worried how some use the line of tolerance as a weapon to control thoughts of others.

No, you're not. If you really are, then yes, you are stupid.