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[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess you’re one of those people who day that ~~Hamas~~ Israel is exactly the same as, and has been doing the exact same as Hitler?

FTFY.

No, I'm not one of those people. Israel prefers Willy Pete to Zyklon-B, for instance - so there is a difference, I guess.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Calling Israel the same as hitler may be funny on an "I'm 15 and this is edgy" level, but it's ignorant as fuck to claim that. Yes, the Israeli has committed and continues to commit atrocious acts, but it's leagues away from what the Nazis did. It's not even in the same ballpark.

Same goes for Hamas. It's a horrible terror organization, it holds zero candles to hitler and his buddies

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

hitler may be funny on

No, Clyde - I don't find genocide a laughing matter whether it's nazis or zionists doing it.

It’s not even in the same ballpark.

Really? You don't think there's any correlation between the nazis' genocidal concept of "lebensraum" and that which Israel is doing in Palestine?

it holds zero candles to hitler and his buddies

Funny you should mention that... it doesn't hold a candle to Israel when it comes to terrorism, either.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think that, when comparing two large systems, it's okay to take two specific items that I "like" and compare only those two.

Israel and Nazi Germany are not comparable. Comparing them and then worse, finding them quite equal is just 15 years old levels of dumb and ignorance

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Israel and Nazi Germany are not comparable.

Tell me you don't understand how right-wing ideology works without telling me you don't understand how right-wing ideology works.

Noting the differences between Israel and Nazi Germany displays just how similar they actually are - unlike Nazi Germany, Israel is utterly dependent on the west (and in particular the US) for literally it's day-to-day existence and therefore cannot pursue the policies it wants to pursue with zero constraints as Nazi Germany finally did when it launched it's genocidal colonialism project in 1941.

The incremental genocide Israel has been perpetrating since 1949 is purely a matter of geopolitical pragmatism - but the ideological drivers of said genocdie is no different to those that drove Nazi Germany.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, no.

You lost perspective. Badly. Israel is bad. Really bad. Everybody will agree with that.

However, comparing Israel with the industrialized mass murder of Nazi Germany is just bullshit. It shows that you don't understand Israel , Nazi Germany or (most likely) both.

Nazi Germany damn near exterminated Jews, gays, Romani, etc. Israel can't hold a candle to the horrors of nazi Germany.

Please go read a history book

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It shows that you don’t understand Israel , Nazi Germany or (most likely) both.

So, again... tell me you don’t understand how right-wing ideology works without telling me you don’t understand how right-wing ideology works.

And again... noting the differences between Israel and Nazi Germany displays just how similar they actually are - unlike Nazi Germany, Israel is utterly dependent on the west (and in particular the US) for literally it’s day-to-day existence and therefore cannot pursue the policies it wants to pursue with zero constraints as Nazi Germany finally did when it launched it’s genocidal colonialism project in 1941.

Please go read a history book

You have already demonstrated a disturbing lack of understanding when it comes to the ideology that underpins white supremacist genocidal regimes - perhaps it's best not to underscore it with comments like these?