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EDIT: To the people downvoting this post because democrats > republicans: you’re missing the point.

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[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is dumb as shit. Democrats aren't perfect but they do care. That is why they actively took steps to stop people from dying during COVID unlike the GOP. That's why they support universal healthcare, unlike the GOP. That's why they support public education unlike the GOP. That is why they support free and fair elections unlike the GOP.

[–] AnarchoSnowPlow@midwest.social 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Before I say anything else, if you're voting, right now at a national level at least, Democrats are essentially the only option if you give a shit about democracy and aren't an accelerationist.

That said: The GOP fucking up covid so hard is probably the only reason Trump didn't get re-elected. Democrats as a collective do not support universal healthcare. They had the capability to pass whatever they wanted in Obama's first term. They actively rejected even a public option. They fucked us (normal, non-rich people) hard, because, as a group, they ain't us. They could have fixed a lot of the issues around public education that were introduced in the bush administration, but they didn't. How's that student loan debt forgiveness going? They, again as a group not individually, hate the idea of all those loans not getting paid. THINK OF THE BANKS! As far as free and fair elections go, they benefit from the FPTP system, they will never get rid of it unless they're forced to.

ALL OF THOSE THINGS SAID: VOTING FOR DEMOCRATS AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL IS WHAT WE'RE STUCK WITH UNLESS WE WANT THINGS TO GET WAY, WAY WORSE.

The alternative to these fetid dickbags is fascists and yes, some literal Fucking Nazis.

In a world where the Overton window isn't totally fucked, Democrats are center-right. They, again as a group, give zero shits about regular people.

[–] TBi@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep. You can vote for the bad party or you can vote for the party that wants you dead. At least if you keep voting for the bad party the other side will get less bad to get more votes. Then you vote for the less bad party and so on until they actually start being good.

It’s so easy, but general population for some reason don’t think that way.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

An easy solution will always sound more appealing than a complex one, even if the easy solution is a lie. MAGA Republicans offer only this.

Worried about immigration? "Build the wall!"

Think government is corrupt? "Drain the swamp"

Does LGBT stuff confuse you "Groomers!"

Scared of change? "Make America Great Again"

No real understanding of any of the underlying problems and no plans to address them. Just catchy slogans.

[–] vivadanang@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just ~~catchy~~ stupid slogans that appeal to the worst americans

[–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Only few dems actually support universal Healthcare, unfortunately, and the majority don't care about anything but lining their pockets. It's the same with the GOP, of course.

That being said, of course vote for dems if your only other option is reps. What's bad is better than what's terrible. However, don't simply vote and be done with it.

Educate yourself. Improve your life. Exercise, organize, teach. Grassroots praxis is where you can meaningfully improve the lives of your community, and carry that momentum elsewhere. The two party system isn't going to be corrected purely via electoralism, it's a stop-gap to prevent sliding into fascism.