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[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I do not count calories and eat until I'm full. Yet I'm not obese, not even overweight. In fact, if I had to become obese, I'm not sure that I physically could. How does a theory of "personal responsibility" explain that?

Obesity is caused by some neurochemical fuckery that affects hunger and/or metabolism. That is a fact, supported by science, though the exact mechanisms are still very badly understood (in large part due to lack of funding for decades, caused by a completely misguided dogma that obesity is a moral failing). If it was all a willpower thing then how come some medications make people lose or gain significant weight?

(Yes, you can gain or lose weight by counting calories. However, every step of the way, you will be fighting your own body's attempts to go back to its baseline, even if that baseline is very unhealthy. Of course in the absence of a better solution it's better to lose weight by counting calories than staying unhealthy, but please realize that you're in deep with the Dunning-Kruger effect and stop disparaging medical science).

[–] Torvum@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just because you are not actively counting, doesn't mean you aren't at maintenance or below. The vast majority of morons that are incapable of understanding basic thermogenics and the fact that if your body is fueled less than it needs it will draw from stored adipose lipids and if fed more than needed it goes back into storage, are just coping beyond anything.

Obesity is not caused by your desire to eat. It is caused by your inability to stop eating. End of discussion. Metabolism is a buzzword to describe people too lazy to understand basic concepts. Look in any gym and the people who maintain willpower to eat less and focus on energy intake are the quickest to achieve results. There are reasons that losers looking for the easy way to weight loss never receive longterm results. This isn't a "well um yes you can gain or lose weight through calories" it's literally the ONLY way. Even hormone imbalances only increase or decrease your need for intake. This is something understood since the Spartans who would eat less if they noticed any fat gain in their physiques. There's a reason every single diet based in fact will tell you to spend 3 months in a deficit and 2-3 months in a ned maintenance, to establish the new baseline. This is a marathon not a sprint. You're the only one disgracing "medical science" by trying to overcomplicate a very simple concept.

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Please, for the love of god, get your macho douche-bro ass energy out of here.

"Obesity is not caused by your desire to eat"
"even hormone imbalances only increase or decrease your need for intake"
the fact that you don't see these two sentences as hilariously contradictory shows how circular your entire reasoning is. So close to getting the point, yet so far.

[–] Torvum@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Zzzzzzz. Cope.