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Independent Sen. Bernie Sanders said Sunday he doesn’t know that a ceasefire is possible in the Israel-Hamas war with “an organization like Hamas” involved.

“I don’t know how you can have a ceasefire, (a) permanent ceasefire, with an organization like Hamas, which is dedicated to turmoil and chaos and destroying the state of Israel,” Sanders told CNN’s Dana Bash on “State of the Union” Sunday.

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[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How about we start by defunding Israel, followed by sanctions?

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip -1 points 10 months ago (4 children)

And what does that do about the violent terrorists who have already raped and murdered anyone who had the misfortune of being nearby and have repeatedly said they intend to do the same again?

How does that not increase their power?

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago

All we need to do to reduce the power of Hamas is to stop actively blocking Gazans from importing weapons. Like, the individuals.

Hamas has no internal check, and that’s a big part of why it’s so god awful

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

All we need to do to reduce the power of Hamas is to stop actively blocking Gazans from importing weapons. Like, the individuals.

Hamas has no internal check, and that’s a big part of why it’s so god awful

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

So pull a Mexico gun running type operation in Gaza? What could ever go wrong.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml -4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It just might force Israel to fucking negotiate the future in good faith, if it no longer felt as if it could continue slow-walking the removal of an entire people from their lands. You are so quick to paint Palestinian violent as barbaric and incomprehensible, yet you ignore the larger scale violence that Israel has been inflicting on Palestine for decades. Bombs from above, collective punishment, punitive control over vital resources, imprisonment and torture of even children! For what? To make more space to house someone descended from ancestors who left that land a thousand years ago?

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

No. I painted what Hamas did as violent and barbaric and reprehensible. Rape and child killing tends to trigger that.

And you'll note I even pointed out that a good chunk of why Hamas is in power is BECAUSE of the IDF

Again, we have been down this road. Syria is a hellscape. Afghanistan is a hellscape. When terrorists take control of a nation, it is the people who suffer. And regardless of why they are in power right now: they can't continue to be in power if the actual welfare of the Palestinian people matters at all.

But hey, maybe this time it will work, right?

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml -2 points 10 months ago

Terrorists are in control of Israel. But then, my country does have a long history of financing terrorists, including in those other countries you mention. But hey, maybe this time it will work, right?

[–] WuTang@lemmy.ninja -5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

you know, you can add raping babies and eating them in your fairy tales. coward you are !

[–] havokdj@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Was that really necessary?