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[–] Torvum@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

New Yorkers remain the lowest in obesity, who would have guessed that walking literally everywhere and burning the same amount as your resting rate leads to a recommended 2500 calorie diet making you not gain weight? What do you mean obesity is simply solved by just eating less and actually has not much to do with the foods in question? But my fitness magazines have to sell me their new juice only diet!

Spoiler, diets are hard (calorie restrictions, not fad trash). Humans have spent millions of years evolving in an environment where every meal could be the last for days. You are biologically wired to crave and eat everything in sight, even more so the rare and useful sugar and sodium. In high amounts, these lead to higher calorie intake, obviously these are overdosed consistently. But you are still fighting millions of years of evolution, with only ~150 years of dietary knowledge and the ability for any person of any class to eat at any time. You are programmed to fail.

Adding to the topic though, numerous studies and almost all data shows sugars, refined or not, do fuck all to the obesity cause. They are a byproduct of larger problems.

[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I don't think sugars are an issue because they magically create fat, I think they're an issue because they have a ton of calories and make us crave more food.

But other countries have sugar, so like you said, that walking sure helps a ton. I have a friend that likes to alternate between living in their home town, and New York. It's wild to see how much their weight changes every time they move back.

[–] Natanael 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just FYI the amount of calories burned by walking and exercise is absolutely minimal compared to your regular resting rate.

Which studies exactly? If you look closer I'm sure you'll find they contribute to poor regulation of various mechanisms related to weight

[–] Torvum@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not true. Within an average day (pending weight and mass overall as well as heart rate) someone walking 15k+ steps a day could easily come close to matching their daily resting rate. An hour of exercise, yes trivial. But simply just not being sedentary will easily get you to needing 3500-4000 calories just to maintain. Of course that's only 1000-1500 more than a man needs on average, and with how easily replaced it is by bad food choices, yes it could also seem trivial. But if maintaining consistency, it could be the difference between success and failure.

http://www.nutritionmd.org/nutrition_tips/nutrition_tips_understand_foods/carbs_versus.html

http://www.healthline.com/health/food-nutrition/simple-carbohydrates-complex-carbohydrates#3

http://www.newhealthadvisor.com/What-Do-Complex-Carbohydrates-Break-Down-Into.html

Bottom line, be slightly active and you're fine. Be sedentary and suffer the consequences of your own actions.