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Can we make it a site wide policy to NOT have supermods?
I've already identified a couple of users who are accumulating mod positions like MTG cards, and some are the most toxic and intentionally astringent users who are constantly involved in all the drama.
Yea. I got banned from a community and zero clue why and when. I have a feeling it's one of these.
Looking at the modlog, it was News for repeated rude comments. Good news! It's only 2 more days!
Rule 1 in News is "1. Be civil". You were marked as multiple rule 1 violations and had multiple comments removed.
So you'll be off the 3 day ban soon, keep it clean and you'll be fine.
I messaged one of them. But it's such a big sub, that it wouldn't shock me.
Yo! I was the one that banned you. I have looked at the Modlog, and I still feel like itβs justified. Your ban is only temporary, and meant more as a warning to refrain from using personal attacks. Know that you are very welcome to post, if you follow the rules of the community.
If you have any questions, let me know (:
Oh! I appreciate the response. Seemed to come from nowhere. I was engaging with an obvious troll and just saying "no u" to his attacking of me. I didn't think it was so treacherous.
Yea no problem. There was one comment where you called them stupid (and one where you implied the same), and you did the same to someone else a two months ago (we look at the modlog for that stuff). The culmination of that leaded to a temp ban. That's our standard policy. We suggest reporting and not engaging with obvious trolls (;
We also don't like that a ban isn't made clear to the one that was banned, but that seems like something lemmy itself has to fix.
Edit: I also unbanned you, because it seems like a genuine mistake.
Oh I thought I was calling their comments stupid. Like they were unaware of how they were trolling everyone. I hear you. I will watch for it. I appreciate the response.
I don't know why, but this whole interaction made me feel nice and tingly inside and I wanted to point out how civil and nice everyone has been :) (mostly xD)
We do our best (:
Reverse text emoji... repeated offense... by an Admin... instructions unclear...... π
Is this a joke I'm to dumb to understand?
The joke is reverse text emojis are evil and used by trolls, and you said to report trolls... π€· maybe it's a generational thing.
Are personal attacks allowed in this sub? Can I call you something mean?
I know of a few communities that are already breaking two of those rules. π
The modlog is public and you can use it to look up your username and the ban or removal reasons. This was not an action of a single moderator and the actions look justified tbh.
Why aren't people notified of this in an individual way? Seemed to come out of nowhere. I had no idea I was banned or why. Unless I posted here I would have never known nor would I even keep exploring the subject.
It's how Lemmy works unfortunately, doesn't let the user know any of the moderator actions taken. But you can do a search in the modlog.
It's something the clients could work around. Auto search the modlog once in awhile and send you a message with the details on a fresh hit.
Which doesn't help if a person gets IP-banned from the site.
There is no such thing as ip-bans on Lemmy
I kept getting a Forbidden message for about a week a while back shortly before the first update to 0.18. After the update the forbidden message disappeared. I seemed to be the only one affected and when I used a VPN it allowed me to access the site.
When I asked around on other instances online it turns out you can be IP banned entirely from the site and it had happened to a few people.
The only contraversial things I did/said was to jokingly ask an admin "how long before you turn into Spez?".
Same.
If I might make a suggestion: let them choose their X most important communities to them that they want to mod (X being whatever number of comms you think is appropriate), then remove them from any others. If they don't choose, they don't get any.
If they want to mod another group they have to surrender their mods privs in a current one.
After modding for over 15 years at the other place, it has strongly solidified my opinion that the only people that want to be mods are broken people that love the surge of power they get from being a water-cooler dictator. Modding should be a job nobody actively wants, and when they do it they do it with reservations, reluctance and a tinge of resentment.
100% agreed. A bad mod is a dictator trying to rule over others. A good mod is more a janitor, someone who works in the background to keep the place clean for others to enjoy, and doesn't expect to be worshipped.
I have two discord servers I own. Modding them is...well, awful.
I spend enough time here that I'd be willing to help out. I think I can be a pretty good judge and allow opinions that are wildly different from mine as long as they contribute to a conversation.
I'm just not real motivated to compete with a bunch of other people who really want the job and will grovel to get it. I'm happy to help; I'm not desperate for an unpaid position in order to lord power over people.
I'd basically do it because I've been on the wrong end of bad moderation, and I don't want to see more of it.
(I was permanently banned from r/leagueoflegends for saying Covid wouldn't be fatal for a team of young 20-somethings that were all vaccinated. It was in a post about a team catching Covid. My statement isn't perfect, but it sure didn't seem worthy of permanent removal on a first offense.)
100%
This was the downfall of reddit for me, and I fear that it's playing out again here π
Hmmmm, how can we make reddit a forum for free discourse? By banning discourse or restricting it to only politically correct groups.
How would you deal with one person with multiple accounts? I don't know how youd deal with the round about way of being a supermod
They're different problems. But together they compound to something much worse. It basically invalidates moderation tools in place.
Can't second this enough
I agree with this opinion. at least put more well respected people of the @lemmy.world community in charge could have a vote on it as well that way everyone has a say in the final outcome
Maybe a cap on the number of communities you can be a mod in.