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[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There are not two countries at war. There is one country, Israel. This is an anti-terrorism operation, by definition. ...
Hamas is a fractured and opportunistic militia, without enough sovereignty to actually govern.

Thanks for the correction, country is not the right word as Palestinian statehood is not recognized by all, nation is more accurate.

So your position is: Hamas isn't actually the government of Gaza, despite the fact that they were elected, took control in a coup, have been negotiating on behalf of Gaza, and demonstrated the capability of launching a massive coordinated attack against Israel? Please. Whether a state or not, they are clearly the government in control of Gaza and are being treated as such.

That’s just some cold ass shit.

Yes, realities of war and realpolitik are often, "cold ass shit."

would you enthusiastically support your country bombing civilian neighborhood because there might be an enemy combatant in a tunnel underneath the homes?

Might be? Israel supposedly has solid intelligence supporting their targets, so let's assume that is the case in your hypothetical.
If this happened in a vacuum I'd probably protest against it. If my country were in Israel's exact position I would absolutely support it. A century of guerilla attacks and wars topped with the brutal slaughter of thousands of civilians has a way of making one care less about the well-being of the ones committing such deeds and their human shields, and more about one's own personal safety.
If this happened to the US, Palestine would probably be shock and awed into oblivion and then forcibly regime changed, if our response to 9/11 is any indication.

How about the cutting off food and water for millions of people? That’s a legitimate thing to do, right?

Maybe they shouldn't have bitten the hand that feeds? Seems like a pretty obvious consequence of slaughtering civilians of a nation they are entirely dependent on. Demanding they keep supplying Hamas' territory with resources while at war with them is wild, and seems like an attempt to bind Israel's hands. They must fight well-fed and hydrated soldiers when their ground forces go in, I guess.