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The Israeli army fired artillery shells containing white phosphorus, an incendiary weapon, in military operations along Lebanon’s southern border between 10 and 16 October 2023.

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[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The burden of proof is on the claim maker.

You claimed this:

Israel is at war. Collective punishment is no longer a relevant claim.

Now cite your source.

[–] galloog1@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You want me to cite a source that says that you are allowed to conduct collateral damage and attack supply lines while at war? That burden of proof is still on you. Nothing in the Geneva Conventions forbids it.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/atrocity-crimes/Doc.34_AP-I-EN.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwi524K1oqWCAxU5lGoFHcJQCt0QFnoECDYQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2_QT30xBqnzFxMi476FkEu

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You:

Israel is at war. Collective punishment is no longer a relevant claim.

Also you:

You want me to cite a source that says that you are allowed to conduct collateral damage and attack supply lines while at war?

Be sure not to hurt your back moving goal post like that.

Also:

Article 75 — Fundamental guarantees

  1. The following acts are and shall remain prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever, whether committed by civilian or by military agents:

a) violence to the life, health, or physical or mental well-being of persons, in particular:

i) murder;

d) collective punishments;

Maybe go eat a sandwich or something, i'm done with your tantrum.

[–] galloog1@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Collateral damage is not collective punishment.

Collateral damage is acceptable when targeting legal targets.

Targets are only legal in a time of war.

Something tells me you don't do this for a living.

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you're right, i'm not being a troll for a living.

[–] galloog1@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's more likely, Israel is a nation state troll with multiple western security apparatuses in support or there's at least a scheme of logic that people who actually look at the data can look at?

It's funny because everyone I know that is liberal and left who work in national security break with the rest of their demographic and you see it in the Democratic party establishment as well. I've never seen a more clear line between experts who work on the space and those that do not.