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Hamas official says group aims to repeat Oct. 7 onslaught many times to destroy Israel
(www.timesofisrael.com)
this post was submitted on 02 Nov 2023
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Did you just threaten to shoot me in the head? You're threatening violence against me for an internet discussion?
Putting that aside, Hamas is a terrible organization, they shouldn't exist, and they need to be deposed. I'm on board with that.
I'm pointing out that both belligerence have taken equivalent positions, that they want to destroy the opposing government. And a lot of civilians are going to die in the middle regardless of the rhetoric.
the ideology war is electronic in nature, these days...
Nope. I’m just saying when things do hit the fan, that the side you are on isn’t gonna fair well.
And no, again you are lying claiming that Hamas said anything about the government. I directly quoted them saying they intend to keep targeting civilians and completely annihilate the entire nation of Israel.
That’s not an equivalent position in the least.
Yes a lot of civilians will die. Mostly because Hamas keeps targeting civilians and operating military bases in civilian infrastructure like hospitals and schools. Hamas already said they don’t care about their civilians and intend to martyr them. They use civilians as shields and intentionally get them killed. That’s on purpose because they’re fucking terrorists.
Hell they kill more Palestinian civilians than the IDF.
Which side do you think I'm on exactly?
I'm applying critical reading skills to every news article I'm coming across.
Apparently you have not. Because the article literally directly quotes him saying
The attack where they intentionally targeted civilians. He is saying they will do again and again. They will intentionally target civilians over and over again. By his own words.
And saying he will sacrifice his own civilians. Like I said.
And
Like I said. They want to annihilate the entire nation of Israel. Like verbatim.
I mean the dude literally said they would keep doing the same thing they did on Oct 7th. By name. Targeting civilians, until there is no Israeli nation. That literally means killing or forcing every Jewish civilian out of the region. Just like they did during the Muslim conquest of the region.
You’re very obviously on the side of Hamas given you’re outright lying about their quotes and defending their targeting of Jewish civilians. Nobody cares about your bullshit semantic arguments. Everyone can see who you are, and it doesn’t matter. Your kind will be defeated when it comes to it.
Here The term Israel is vague. It's often used as both the government, the Jewish people, and the religion.
I don't presume to speak for Hamas when they're talking about the destruction of Israel. But if we take the two parts of the article together, that a Hamas spokesperson says they're not targeting civilians, and they want to end Israel. That at least at a PR level doesn't sound like the death of the Jewish people. So if we take those two statements quoted from Hamas in the article at face value, that would imply that in that context they're talking about the end of the Israeli government. Which is equivalent to what the Israeli government wants, the end of Hamas government. Which is my entire point
I don't want that to happen, and I don't support Hamas I feel like I have to say that again.
I’m done arguing with you. Hamas verbatim said they will conduct the same attacks on civilians. The attack on October 7th was entirely civilians and Hamas said they will do exactly the same thing over and over again.
The term Israel is not vague at all. They want to kill every non Muslim. They have said and done this repeatedly. When they took over Gaza by violent coup in 2007 they started murdering al news and Christians in the Gaza Strip.
Hamas wasn’t elected. They just executed the elected government in Gaza and started killing civilians to secure their rule.
But go on and defend them.
Didn't meet and cause you distress, I apologize
For what it's worth I'm opposed to all fascist militarized theocracies hell-bent on ethnic cleansing. That means I am anti-Hamas 100%.
My dude/dudette you don’t even know what fascist means. Yeah it’s the “new” term but nothing about Hamas fits it. Fascism is an ultranationalist ideology where national identity and national position matters over everything.
Hamas doesn’t believe in nationality in general. They believe in an Islamic caliphate that will rule over all humanity. Nationality doesn’t mean fuck. They don’t believe nations even exist as a concept.
Both are right wing but not related beyond that.
You make a good point. I've just been confused by the very fluid nature of the word as it's been applied to political analysis.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamofascism