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[–] greenmarty@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems like you are avoiding the answer, so i won't pursue any further.

[–] snek@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think you completely missed the point of it and maybe there was a misunderstanding because the things you were asking and commenting on weren't making sense and seemed like you were pulling my leg to say some bullshit (maybe you assumed I was pro-Israeli? Or maybe pro-Palestinian?) maybe you missed the whole Israeli self determination thing in history? Idk.

I'm not trying to run away from anything. Your question doesn't make sense or is awkwardly phrased.

You can ask again as long as it makes a bit of sense lmfao

[–] greenmarty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You said following

Just like the Jewish people have the right to “self determination”, do Palestinians as a nation have the same right to self determination?

I asked this simple question to better understand where you are coming from.

Yeah can’t they do it without affecting anyone’s basic human’s rights ?

What are you looking for behind it is beyond me. Either they can or they can't . Some people think nothing stops them, Some people say they made a democratic choice to vote for Hammas others think Israel is totalitarian regime, others think evil west oppresses them.

[–] snek@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay, before I give an answer (which is obviously yes anyway), what is the purpose of asking whether or not they can do it without affecting people's basic human rights? What made you assume or think this was even part of the original question? And who do you think would be affected by a group of people being given bsck their full rights?

If you don't want to answer that that's fine but my answer is "yes but dort go around pulling people's legs, clearly this question is loaded".

[–] greenmarty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What made me ask about violence ? There are mutliple things but i guess most fresh one is October 7th music festival. Another one would be of-roof-trowings. Also son of Hammad leader testament. etc.

I have not asumed you asked about it. I asked this question to better understand your POV.

Do you mean who would be negatively affected by making democracy in Gaza? It's simple, Hamas would lose their position of power. (No more of-roof-trowing)

What is with your obsession with legs pulling. Keep on mentioning it all over. If question is clear, give clear answer or refuse to answer it. Instead of running around like with hot potato. It looks like you trying to mislead me or something.

[–] snek@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago