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Really? Do you have any evidence for that? There is a lot of evidence that he is not. For example http://www.garyhabermas.com/articles/Habermas_Minimal%20Facts%20STR%202012.pdf . So you would need to bring counter evidence.
Nope, the burden of evidence is on the one claiming something contradicting current scientific understanding.
I provided evidence. Why are you asking me to provide evidence if you are not willing to look at it?
I looked at it. It's a bunch of anecdotal evidence from 2000 years ago. Anecdotal evidence is well established to be extremely unreliable, people hallucinate all sorts of nonsense all the time. I couldn't find a justification for how any amount of anecdotal evidence can prove resurrection, which violates many scientifically proven theories.
Your comment indicates that you did not really look at it.
What part? There's nothing revealing about calling it anecdotal, all historical evidence for that time is.
I just don't think the anecdotal evidence is relevant to this discussion. The claims of Christianity are so great that it doesn't cut it for me.
You are dismissing evidence that is believed to be true by over 95% of scholars of all kinds of beliefs and are not even trying to find an explanation for that evidence. That shows that you are biased and your main goal is to dismiss it, not to really look into it.
But why are you even arguing? If it is like you are saying, Jesus can't help them. If it is like I say Jesus can help them. Why do you want to prevent them from even trying?
But you're dismissing all the scientific evidence that proves that resurrection is impossible. Even assuming all the anecdotal evidence is accurate, which I'm happy to do if it's accepted by historians, the leap of logic from "some people 2000 years ago thought they saw a guy get executed then reappear a few days later, and they were surprised so they started a religion out of it" to "God is real" is unfathomable to me, and dismissed by any serious expert.
It's certainly a strange event in history and we can have a historical discussion about possible historical explanations. But this was originally a philosophical/theological discussion.
I find these discussions interesting. It's interesting to hear other people's world view, why they believe what they believe, and to have my world view challenged.
There is no scientific evidence that a resurrection is impossible. Science can't tell you anything about supernatural things. That's not how science works.
Yes, you are right, science doesn't work that way. That is because science can only tell you something about things that exist.
That's not evidence. It's fun stories.
And another one who didn't really look at it yet feels compelled to reveal their ignorance by making unqualified comments.
Shuuut uuup.
Cover your ears and say "la la la I can't hear you"
Now you've made me waste half an hour and read the paper completely. I have never read the word fact so often in so short a text and with so little justification.