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I don't know how I feel about it. I like that it will encourage people to join. I don't like that it isn't a generic mastodon interface. However, if flickr and tumblr are coming, this Vivaldi's way of doing is going to end up seeming pretty innocuous
True. For me Vivaldi's features are useless as i don't want to make an alt on their instance. I can't say for certain how much commerce they'd bring to the Fediverse. I agree that, as much as I like the idea of the Fediverse growing, allowing pre-existing corporations to Federate should be avoided and stopped for obvious reasons
Nothing of commerce, it's simply a service for the Vivaldi user, same as the own blog and mailservice which include your Vivaldi account. You can download Vivaldi, create an account (it's free) and you hve encrypted end2end sync, an own mail with 5Gb, a blogging platforma and now also the social network, which you can use right now, without further accounts. Apart the community forum.
The "commerce" quote came from someone else on Mastodon who posts about social media / the Fediverse a lot. You don't need to sell me on this so please stop. I don't want a Vivaldi account, for reasons and the browser and its features didn't impress me otherwise. I have all those things in places that I feel better about and are more useful. Feel free to use it and I hope you enjoy, though.
Everyone is free to use the browser they like, since everyone has their preferences, but it is absurd to complain about a service that Vivaldi offers to its users, if you do not want to use this browser. There are quite a few other instances on Mastodon where you can sign up. Maybe Mozill create one day also a own instance for its users, but I doubt it.
I'm not complaining. I'm discussing. At this point, I feel like you're badgering me and spamming me for having a difference of opinion. I've asked you not to sell me on it multiple times. It's absurd that you continue the way you are as though you're paid by Vivalidi. I downloaded it as a browser not knowing it wasn't meant for me as you explain. That's poor marketing and not my fault so I don't appreciate the discussion getting to this point.
It doesn't matter where did the "commerce" quote came from, if you do not agree with that quote (or have no first hand knowledge) do not confront its criticism, and if you do agree with it then own up to it.
Throwing a complaint, then saying "I did not say it" and then trying to silence anyone that disagrees with that quote with "don't sell me on this so please stop", is a bit like throwing a stone and then running away, imho. You are the one who brought that quote to the conversation.
I don't use Vivaldi (nor are interested to even try, for other reasons), and I don't know if it's true or not the "commerce" statement, but I'm willing to bet that any corporation that opens a new Mastodon instance is gonna "by default" face allegations of being "commercial" in its inception by many random opinionated people, even if the instance was so young that it had little content.
I made clear what was opinion and experience and it was a discussion. re-framing any difference of opinion as a complaint isn't a way that will make people want to listen to your opinion. This is is far too personal for some unknown reason. I also didn't deny saying anything. I'm sorry this bothers you so much. I have every right in interactions to tell a person to stop selling me on it, as they were certainly doing, and I'm not sure what you expect to get out of this way of responding to me. Your other response was fine as it was informative but this is combative and personal and unncessary. Insulting me won't make me interested in hearing what you have to say.