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[–] filister@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The only difference now is that you are cheering when civilians are killed now in Gaza?

[–] ahornsirup@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not cheering. But I do think that, if it ends with the removal of Hamas, it is a necessary evil. Remember that Hamas started this escalation and that Hamas could end it at any time by releasing the hostages and surrendering.

[–] filister@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

And my concern is even if they manage to dismantle Hamas, there would be another terror group that would fill the vacuum left after Hamas.

You can't seriously expect that after all this, people in Gaza won't radicalize. They are going through hell. And let's not forget that the majority of those people are living peacefully, are not part of Hamas and haven't voted for Hamas. Why should they suffer?

And for the record we already see a lot of cases silently endorsed by the IDF and the Israelian government of settlers attacking unprovoked, Palestinians in the West Bank. There were a couple of notable killings as well. So explain to me, how is this different from what Hamas is doing and why those people are not persecuted and given effective sentences?

And why food, electricity, and fuel is not allowed into Gaza? IDF is claiming that Hamas has a stockpile of all of this, so explain to me the rationale of restricting all those and creating a horrible humanitarian catastrophe.

There are reports of kids forced to drink salty water, because there isn't enough drinking water, of doctors who need to operate without anesthesia, of people having not enough food. Hundreds of thousands are expulsed and living in makeshift tents, they cannot escape even if they want, there is bombardment all across Gaza and there isn't a single safe space and houses are indiscriminately destroyed. What IDF would leave would be only death, destruction and immense suffering. Isn't this collective punishment? Is this humane treatment? And how come all of this is coming from a nation who was historically oppressed and suffered immensely. So right now they pretty much repeat all the horrors they were enduring to another nation.

And call me a pessimist, but I don't think this is a recipe for long lasting peace!