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[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The proposed solution on the left is never "fix the problems that lead to crime and violence"; rather, it's "take the tools used to commit crime and violence"

What left are you talking about? Social issues and solving them is generally by definition leftist. If one suggests it they get called socialist/communist in the US even if they're closer to center if compared to rest of the world.

We also discuss the issue of tons of crime being caused by poverty and lack of social nets, especially when discussing police brutality and the like. Now many of the members of congress people consider/accuse of being leftists are really just centrists, or close to it, or people who want to maintain their power, get votes, not really change the status quo. I'd say they match your definition, but if you're saying leftists don't want social solutions then you either haven't been talking to leftists, or you aren't fully listening.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

As I said in response to someone else: what passes for the left says that they want this, until the rubber meets the road. Criminal justice reform/defund the police? That's great, until you have a lot of homeless people scaring the Good, Decent, Upstanding citizens. High-density, affordable housing? Oh no, not in my charming, turn-of-the-century neighborhood, that would ruin it's charm and wreck my property values! MLK Jr. said that the white liberals were the enemy, and--as a white leftist--he was right!

Republicans are honest; they want to fuck everyone over as long as they make a buck, or believe that they're doing their god's will.

Personally, I side with the anarchists that are at least trying to work within their communities to make shit better in whatever small ways they can.

[–] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

I actually question what left you're talking about lol. Outside the internet, the American left does NOT talk safety nets unless they're one of the furthest left voices. Leftists are a very small minority in the US.