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[–] ashok36@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

It's not poverty. Most mass shooters are not in poverty. Not well off, sure, but not destitute.

Assault style weapons are expensive.

[–] unoriginalsin@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Assault style weapons are expensive.

Brand new AR-15s are available for $400 all day long. It's not even a week's rent most places. Poverty isn't keeping people from arming themselves.

It's not poverty.

But you're right. Technically.

There are plenty of people in this country living well above the poverty line without the means to care for themselves, due to the extreme cost of healthcare, shelter and food. Nobody in this country should have to struggle for any of these basic human necessities.

And yet here we are, arguing about the price of guns in a country that invented school lunch debt.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It's not poverty.

Depends what you mean by that. Someone who suffers from a mental health issue (or really any other health issue) can suddenly become too poor to afford proper care.

Assault style weapons are expensive.

You people keep using these generic terms without ever explaining what they mean. You can get a semi-automatic handgun (which is responsible for the overwhelming majority of firearm deaths) for ~$200 or a bare-bones AR-15 (which the entire category of "rifles" is responsible for fewer deaths than literally just hands and feet) for ~$300.

[–] ashok36@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm not trying to parse out the difference between lever action, semi auto, assault style, assault rifle, etc... That's all besides the point of my original supposition: poverty does not cause mass shootings.

There are millions of people in poverty and none of them are doing mass shootings. They're almost all lower middle and middle class people going on these senseless rampages.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl -1 points 11 months ago

That's all besides the point of my original supposition

LOL no, it was the basis of your supposition...

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Ah, didn't think of this. You're probably right