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[–] Turun@feddit.de 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

From an outside perspective Trump was a shit show.

I don't really care about your internal politics, but what I can say is that he had a massive impact on America's credibility in the world. If you can just leave and rejoin the Paris climate agreement or unilaterally end the Iran nuclear oversight program, why should anyone really trust you on anything?

Joe Biden did a lot to repair this loss in trust, but it's hard work and will take longer than one presidential period. Much longer than it took to damage your credibility in the world.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What’s being referenced is that the symbol of Trump’s party is an elephant. They’re the ones who basically set all this up. The other party holds to treaties they don’t like and such

[–] Turun@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks. I know that in theory, but didn't make the connection.

Makes a lot of sense in that sketch.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You speak to one that emigrated as a result of what Trump did to America, so I have no quarrel with you about that. I am just amused by the German version with elephants in China shops since the Republican icon is an elephant.

[–] Turun@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, makes sense. I didn't make that connection even though I am aware of the donkey and elephant symbolism.

Some find me unnecessarily oblique, don't worry about it

[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I (an American) was thinking a similar thing. What’s the point of treaties and agreements if all it takes is one asshole President to say “nah, we’re not doing that”?

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I don't think anyone ever trusted the US with anything,with or without Trump. However the US are unavoidable, so we have to work with them.