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[–] rivermonster@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I get your points and don't disagree fully. But they have had a terrorism problem for a long, long time. If Hamas had not been blowing up civilians on busses, then Perez would have been elected, and chances of a 2 state solution would have been high (it was so close). Then, had Perez been elected, it is less likely Arafat would have walked away from the talks--which he did (effectively ending a possibility of 2 state from the Oslo accords).

But Hamas did successfully put Netanyahu (a horrific war criminal) into power (remember he was losing until the Hamas suicide and bus bombings and because of that he won by what like 1 percent). Thus, Hamas successfully prevented 2 state, which they then used to rise to power and become the elected representatives of Gaza.

A two state solution would have been even more likely had that Israeli orthodox piece of shit not assassinated Rabin. The reality is the greatest enemy to peace has been rhe religious nut jobs on BOTH sides. But even then, I still think Pereze would have managed it while working with Arafat.

By not cracking down on Hamas, Arafat enabled their rise to power and successfully gave them enough coverage to sink 2 state by getting Netanyahu elected. And their partnership (Hamas and Netanyahu) have made this whole fucking mess even worse ever since.

History matters on this stuff. Especially when people are protesting in support of terrorists without any historical context or understanding of the propaganda they've fallen victim to.

[–] Cannacheques 1 points 1 year ago

Warmongers unintentionally keep each other employed, what a suprise, truly a potential future case of systems producing human displacement as a means of sustaining other systems