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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I would agree that Israel should not make full legal rights dependent on being a Jew, but it doesn't do that,

It doesn't on paper, but Arabs face discrimination by the government in many aspect of their lives, from education to building permits to how likely they are to get killed by the police (since 1948 the only protestors to get killed by the police have been Arabs).

Given that Hamas' explicit aim is to murder them all, Israel is going to do anything and everything to resist them.

Didn't they change that part of their charter in 2017? I mean, they've wanted a ceasefire since the very beginning of this mess (and got two in 2008 and 2012 that fell apart due to Israel not following them), but they made it official that they want a 2-state solution in 2017.

But regardless, violence is simply not a productive option for the Palestinian cause, and it never will be. It must be abandoned.

The thing is that, seeing the state of the West Bank (and before that how the Oslo accords failed), non-violence is also not working. We all want non-violence to work, but in the past 20 years Israel has given no indication that they're interested in a solution, violent or nonviolent, to the conflict..

The PLO abandoned violence 30 years ago. It didn't work, which is why people flocked to Hamas.