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Visual Studio Code is designed to fracture (ghuntley.com)
submitted 1 year ago by ck_@discuss.tchncs.de to c/programming@programming.dev
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In this blog post, we explore the ecosystem of open-source forks, revisit the story so far with how Microsoft has been transforming from products to services, go deep into why the Visual Studio Code ecosystem is designed to fracture, and the legal implications of this design then discuss future problems faced by the software development ecosystem if our industry continues as-is on the current path...

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[–] armchair_progamer@programming.dev 20 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It's funny because, I'm probably the minority, but I strongly prefer JetBrains IDEs.

Which ironically are much more "walled gardens": closed-source and subscription-based, with only a limited subset of parts and plugins open-source. But JetBrains has a good track record of not enshittifying and, because you actually pay for their product, they can make a profitable business off not doing so.

[–] Lucky@programming.dev 11 points 1 year ago

Agreed. Their business model is transparent: we give them money, they give us good products

[–] eluvatar@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

Yes their stuff is great, I've been using rider over vs for years.

That said, for new stuff vscode is better because it'll have a decent extension, where as jetbrains will only really support popular stuff. For example the Svelte support in the past wasn't great, as it's been getting more popular they brought integration with the Svelte IDE tooling.

[–] ck_@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

But JetBrains has a good track record of not enshittifying and, because you actually pay for their product

I disagree.

Jetbrains is going essentially the same way with kotlin. Even though it's open source on paper, Jetbrain is gatekeeping it to a degree where they are actively blocking changes that would make it easier for LSP developers to integrate (thus potentially creating competition to their intellij products ).

[–] themusicman@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Same. I'm a loyal Jetbrains user, and I don't see that changing soon.

[–] mrkite@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago

It's funny because, I'm probably the minority, but I strongly prefer JetBrains IDEs.

So does anyone who was forced to use eclipse.