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[–] echo64@lemmy.world 78 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Hmm, Twitter used to at least try before. Advertisers don't like Eat Fresh! Running below a nazi tweet. There are at least some market forces keeping them at bay, which is why their social platforms keep failing.

Nothing Beats communities that are willing to oust bad elements, though

[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Advertisers didn't like their ads running next to a nazi tweet until they saw how much money they could make off nazis after one of them was made potus.

[–] echo64@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nope, they still don't. Except pillow guy. Hence why the nazi networks keep falling and why x is failing.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Pillow guy declared bankruptcy recently.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Good. I hope he gets fucked up on the streets and ends up getting some empathy for the marginalized.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Don't you love capitalism? And big fat lawsuits taking out bad actors?

[–] msage@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Without it they wouldn't be in power in the first place

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Yup. Instead you get corrupt officials, and good luck dislodging them with a lawsuit like this.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s a reason Twitter is failing, but it’s not the reason. Even without the nazis they’d be struggling because their owner just keeps making bad financial and business decisions like not paying rent, trying to rebrand, and illegal firings

[–] echo64@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Eh. He doesn't pay rent to cut costs, he fires to cut costs. All of this is because he wants to run twitter as a nazi platform that doesn't have advertising backing. Advertising is the only reason a free service like Twitter can exist, and the nazis are the reason that the advertisers left.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It’s also because he overpaid for it. It’d be in bad but recoverable shape without this behavior and his desire to run it as a Nazi platform. But all of it is connected. He wouldn’t’ve made the hasty decisions to purchase if he didn’t want to run it as a Nazi platform and struggle with impulse control, but also had he found himself in the position of owning it with the massive loss in value from purchase price caused by his waiving of due diligence at the worst possible time he still could’ve hunkered down and treated it like a company he owns and wants to be profitable. From there he could cut costs at reasonable pace, listened to management as to how to minimize headcount, and done market research to maximize value to shareholders. But most notably he could’ve done reasonable cost cutting and made it a Nazi platform. It was gonna hemorrhage money either way. He just decided to be an idiot about it.

So what’s the problem with it? Elon. Not one single facet of him, though his impulse control is likely high up there, but all of him. At every point he’s making the decisions that ordinary people can see are financially unwise against all advice of experts and professionals. Decisions he should know better than to make.

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

He didn't even want to buy it, he was trying to pump and dump, the court made him go through with the purchase.

[–] SnipingNinja 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He's also the only shareholder now AFAIK, though that's based on loans, so those lenders can do a takeover of sorts (maybe? I've only read some headlines claiming that)

[–] Jerkules_Jerkules@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

platforms driven by user created content like the nazis, and other extreme right ideologues, because the audience for them consumes that content like religious zealots going to services, getting in their daily requirements of indoctrination. This inflates user engagement. However, the businesses advertising their services, and products, on those platforms do not like their company being associated with these people.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

It's nice when the primary goal of the owners and mods and aligns with the users.

Chasing profit is the worst mechanism in so many cases. One of those cases is when competition is by nature very limited. Social media kind of fails unless you have very few places to go. And you're locked in if your friends are all on the same offering.

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

“Zombie Nazis: Eat Flesh!”