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A new poll shows President Joe Biden leading Trump 44% to 37%, with Kennedy notching 16%.

Released by Marist in partnership with NPR and PBS Newshour on Tuesday, the poll shows a five-point drop among Democrats for Biden with Kennedy in the race. Meanwhile, the survey indicates a 10-point drop among Republicans for Trump with RFK Jr. on the ticket.

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[–] aniki@lemm.ee 12 points 11 months ago (3 children)

To the surprise of no one.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I don't know about that. He has been heavily funded by right-wing sources in the hopes of spoiling for Biden.

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 24 points 11 months ago

He's being funded but he's not fooling anyone I know. Maybe it's my bubble but up here in the North East no one even talks about him.

[–] Perfide@reddthat.com 3 points 11 months ago

Funding doesn't mean shit, you still have to actually convince people. Literally all he has to offer that democrats might view as a "positive" is that he's a Kennedy. That's it. He's solely banking on the hope that dems will be too stupid to consider anything about him other than his fucking last name. Problem with that is, that level of unquestionable devotion to a political entity is solidly a republican trait nowadays.

[–] sab@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago (4 children)

The yoga antivax crowd is a pretty confusing one. They're as anti science as Trump, but consider themselves to belong on the political left. So it's not as obvious as one might immediately think.

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I highly doubt the lefty anti-vax community have any numbers that peak above statistical anomaly. Bernie had way more support than the Paltrow freaks and we all still got railroaded.

[–] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

Bernie was actually trying to win though. RFK is just trying to be a spoiler.

[–] sab@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I tend to agree, but then again I would have said the same thing about the Tea Party some years ago. And in presidential elections it could very much be decided on the margins, which is why people are concerned. At Jr. events there tend to be a solid number of people who consider themselves Obama era democrats.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Poor people who have barely learned to read, let alone critically, are great stooges. And Obama was economically right.

[–] sab@kbin.social -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I think there's also a great element of mental illness involved. RFK Jr. was neither illiterate or stupid, he just went over the edge at some point. I suspect the same is true for many of his (potential) voters.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

Right. Complex trauma is evident, in politicians and their voters. Fwiw, I was referencing the voters. Most politicians had a decent education.

[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I am always a bit offended by the inclusion of yoga here. I do yoga as a way to stay in shape, and flexible, but I am in no way antivax. In my social bubble there are many like me. Is this stereotype really still warranted?

[–] sab@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

I see the frustration - I have nothing against yoga at all! I just think there are two very different types of vaccine sceptics, and that they can effectively be sorted by their attitudes to yoga. I don't think there's any correlation between being pro yoga and being anti vaccine. :)

[–] thesprongler@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Socially left, scientifically right?

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago

they're not even socially left anymore considering the brainrot of transphobia

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

i think it's due to historically coming from the anti gmo earth crunchy group (i say this as someone who is pretty earth crunchy but not anti vaxx or gmo).

[–] sab@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I think there's a risk of people discovering actual truths that are not widely promoted that they tend to overdo it a bit and obsess over finding truths everywhere.

RFK's background makes sense in that regard - both as a Kennedy and as a climate lawyer. No wonder he lost trust (and/or his mind).

[–] ares35@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

dunno about that. this says there's more crazies out there than last time around.