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But F the poor I guess

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[–] Ronno@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago (24 children)

It's easy to polarize with such a headline/picture. Reality is way more nuanced than this:

Migrants are in fact being saved from shipwrecks, it is (sadly) in the news every week or so. The main problem is that these migrants don't have communication devices with them to signal emergencies, unlike the submarine. The boat on the surface alarmed emergency services when they lost connection with the sub, starting the rescue operation. It is difficult to rescue a boat of migrants, when you don't even know that they are in danger in the first place.

Secondly, the harsh reality is that most migrants try to enter a country illegally. Which by definition, is a huge risk on their part. The rich people on the sub were not doing anything illegal. However, in both cases, the people in or on the boat accepted the risks involved in their endeavor.

[–] fu@libranet.de 11 points 1 year ago (22 children)

@Ronno the problem is making the natural human right of migration illegal in the first place.

[–] gun@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (11 children)

How are you going to continue to enforce gun control in your country if there are zero borders?

[–] cmdr_nova@hackers.town 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@gun @fu hey lemmy get the fascists off your instance

[–] fu@libranet.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@cmdr_nova lemmy.ml is certianly anti-facist, but to my knowledge is not anti-gun

[–] cmdr_nova@hackers.town -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@fu way to focus on exactly what I wasn't talking about

[–] fu@libranet.de 2 points 1 year ago

@cmdr_nova I apologize, I had thought you were associating firearm freedom with fascism. Would you mind sharing with me what you were speaking of, as I clearly missed the point.

[–] gun@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right, but if you want to stop school shootings with gun control and are also left wing enough to want zero borders, how will gun control be possible if crazies can just go and get their guns from places where its legal to get them. Am I fascist for pointing out an obvious contradiction?

[–] g8phcon2@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

WTF said anything about wanting gun control?

[–] gun@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I did. It's just a random example to argue what @Banana@feddit.it was saying about reality being more complicated.

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