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[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Anytime you all want to go back to making your own websites

Anytime

[–] orangeboats@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's pretty difficult nowadays to self-host websites when everyone and their nanny shares a single public IP address (IPv4 address exhaustion is real, everyone!) unless you purchase a hosting service.

[–] oyenyaaow@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

DDNS

Before social media back in the 2000's i know quite a few personal site using home servers using them. And (google google) apparently these days cloudflare offers the service.

[–] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

No, you misunderstand. You're thinking of DHCP. The parent poster is talking about CGNAT, where hundreds or thousands of customers of an ISP may share the same public-facing IPv4 address. It's impossible to self-host anything in this scenario, there no way around it and DDNS won't help you.

[–] herrvogel@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

DDNS won't save you from your ISP sticking your modem behind a cgnat and blocking critical ports. Which is not an uncommon scenario at all.

There are ways around it, but it's still not very straightforward. Also often with some significant limitations.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then purchase a hosting service. Off-shore VPSes are pretty cheap, and they take Bitcoin. Even fucking Paypal uses Bitcoin nowadays. Only hurdle in your way is you.

[–] orangeboats@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's pretty much just pushing the centralization from Google, AWS etc to the hosting services.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then start building community ISPs that allow for individuals to have their own IPs again.

If you want to solve the problem, you have work to do.

Or you can sit around and complain like you're trying to justify and defend doing, and live without access to ad free quality videos. Your choice.

[–] orangeboats@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Good luck getting a block of IP addresses from your regional internet registry for this community ISP... IP address exhaustion is just that, no more addresses. That's why we are sharing them.

We do have a solution and it's called IPv6, but its deployment is still not as widespread as people would like to be. If I self-host my website on IPv6, a lot of people from Europe would still be unable to access it.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then start convincing people to use it.

The only one who is going to be hurt by you constantly making excuses is you. No matter what hurdles you face, you have to overcome them, even if you have to build your own separate network from scratch, or you'll never be free from the yoke of corporations and more importantly for you, you'll never be free of the blame.

[–] orangeboats@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tell me you haven't seen people adamantly defending IPv4 without telling me so...

You're right, I haven't. What dumb bullshit were they saying?