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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

The real solution is Biden doing an executive order that there needs to be federal emissions tests like some states have. Then codify it when we get a functional government again.

Not just for shit like this, but when you stop and think for 2 seconds, it's fucking insane that we basically let any vehicle use our roads. There's a shit ton of vehicles that aren't fit for the road, and we're just taking the owners word that they're safe.

It doesn't even have to be annual checks right away, have em do it every 3-5 years and then maybe see if we can do annuals later.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Lot of states do inspections Oklahoma definitely needs them. And I see these trucks all the time in my state. Didn't know it was a device doing it until I read this article but now I know. Bullshit and we need to take the license away from people who do this.

[–] eek2121@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I disagree. maybe for diesel vehicles like this, but for most vehicles such programs are not effective. We killed ours off completely a while back.

Decades ago in another state, my car was slightly out spec for the year, and it costed me $1,200 to fix. At the time I was living on my own and made $9/hour. I needed my vehicle to go to work to earn a living. I was lucky enough to be able to get a loan from a friend.

The only thing inspections lead to is a tax on the poor, just like most other types of vehicle citations.

The only way such a program is acceptable to me is if there were some mechanism to get your vehicle “repaired” at no cost to you.

I mean, you have a point, but the counter is that these vehicles are literally not safe to drive either. There's no easy perfect solution, I think we should regulate cars, I've seen some real POS cars on the road that shouldn't be

[–] biddy@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago

You're absolutely right, but this argument about a "tax on the poor" is used to justify everything that's wrong with cars. We need to solve this properly with a social safety net and alternatives to cars.

[–] sucricdrawkcab@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

This and people getting profiled and harassed. So many stories of people in bone stock cars getting pulled over, stopped for long periods of time because an officer thinks they might have something illegal installed. People moding cars like this will most likely just pay someone to pass the test because that's exactly how people get around these tests now.

I loved the fact that I didn't need an emissions test for several years after buying a new car, but I hate that it essentially boils down to an inconvenience, a tax of sorts, for less financially inclined people. Even if emissions tests are free, it's still time wasted, but only if you're not wealthy.