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Sorry, can you please explain to all us non Americans how nationalized healthcare is not a socialist institution?
As a non American person living in Britain, I pay insurance called National Insurance and then get medicine when needed. And if I don't pay, I don't get shit. How's that socialist?
That is a text book example of a socialist institution. The clue might be in the name.
I think the issue is somehow socialist institutions have gotten a bad name/are thought to be unnatural.
Then nothing is socialized. My tax monies go to roads, in a single payer tax based collective system. Same with military, fire, ect.
"Socialized medicine is, by definition, a healthcare system in which the government owns and operates healthcare facilities and employs the healthcare professionals, thus also paying for all healthcare services"
That's it, and both UK and Canadian healthcare is socialized. You can argue that cows are 6" red spheres until you are blue in the face, but the rest of us will just regard you as... Special.
But the British government doesn't employ doctors and doesn't own the facilities. It is not socialised.
Can you do me the basic decency of reading my first message, way back two months ago, which you responded to?
I know reading is really hard, and two months ago is forever ago, but if you try really hard, I'm sure you can do it.
Two months ago I said something like "in Canada..." To which you responded "that's not socialized healthcare"...
Now, does "Canada" sound like "the United Kingdom"?
Wow, isn't that something!
Now that we've established I EXPLICITLY WAS TALKING ABOUT CANADA!!!, with regard to the UK...
"All English residents are automatically entitled to free public health care through the National Health Service, including hospital, physician, and mental health care. The National Health Service budget is funded primarily through general taxation. Which is a single payer healthcare system based on tax, instead of a capital driven multi-payer system, which is exactly what socialized medicine is.
I replied to a person asking for a clarification for a non American. I gave an example from a non American perspective. Do you have basic context following skills?
Good god, you are a dense one, aren't you.
Since you can't be bothered to scroll back to the start of the conversation, I did it for you, where you said Canadian healthcare is not socialized.
Also, thank you for ignoring all the examples of how the UKs healthcare is socialized, weather you want to admit to basic reality or not.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/6zq3mL24LQHTYGF48
They don't need to be owned or employed by the government for it to be socialized. You're confusing communism with socialism.