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I still can't understand why americans still tolerate tip culture.
We don't have mandatory tips in Europe and still have people working at McDonald's or similar restaurants : In France, it's even one of the biggest employer of the country.
I can't say for all of Europe, but at least in France it's simply included in the bill at most restaurants. Around 15%. It's not that different in the end. Just easier to forget about it as the prices on the menu are service included.
For restaurants at least. Not talking about fast foods.
Source:
https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pourboire
That's entirely different, if it's mandated by law workers don't have to compete or beg for tips.
Where I live we pay for the "service", however this is only on restaurants with waiters, you can choose not to but I've never had a problem with tipping a waiter. Now tipping on an automated transaction? Yeah nah
Because in some places it's the only way for the staff to make livable wages. If our store didn't allow tips I'd be missing 10 - 20% of the pay I get, and with the situation I'm in, everything helps.
And while I would love for tips to go away, and for our minimum wage to reflect the reality of our economy, that doesn't seem to be happening nearly fast enough, or in some places, at all.
I see accepting that is part of 'tolerating tipping culture'. Indeed, the system as it is now would not realistically allow for tipping to be obliterated. But just saying "it doesn't work, for this and that reason..." and then continuing the status quo, will not change anything.
You've seen what happens in France when the workers are unhappy. What America needs, first and foremost, is powerfull unions, make the minimal wage reflect a decent living wage at least, make the waiters wage an acceptable wage, and then abolish tipping. Accepting the status quo is tolerating it.