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I disagree- they voted in their short term interest with tax cuts and blaming labour for the state of things. Our country is lacking soo much, and this was people just wanting something to take the edge off now.
Unfortunately when you are feeling that defeated $520 a year is absolutely worth it.
Take the edge of in what way ? Pretty short sighted if a couple months helps but then national policies kick in and things get markable worse. But who knows aye
Oh, it is shortsighted. But people can't think about the future if they are struggling now and it is something we all do. 2k tax cut gives me something now, 100,000 homes in 10 years I have to wait for.
Which is probably why we are in this situation. We don't look to the future. Gotta start thinking big picture. Planets fucked. Need some drastic changes or this is humanities end.
But I get yah
Im curious what way you voted - I didn't vote any of the big 4 because their focus is the 3 year reelection (and act/green is effectively a lab/nat vote). Don't need to answer, just speaking out loud and happy to see others are on the same page.
Unfortunately I'm eligible to vote( resident not citizen) but I would vote green.
Labour or green are an attack on national. Only way to fight national is to push up labour.
Two party systems are a big issue.
You don't have to be a citizen to vote in NZ. Permanent resident (or resident visa) is enough. So long as you're entitled to live here indefinetly (and have lived here at least 12 months), you can vote.
I checked and my visa level doesn't allow me. I think mine is spousal. But we looked it up and I didn't fit criteria. But I am permanent ?
Interesting, the "am I eligible to vote" things just say you are if you've been here 12 months and are entitled to stay indefinitely.
I guess one key question is, on a spousal visa, if you split from your spouse are you still entitled to stay here indefinitely? If not that may be why you can't vote. I couldn't find any information specifically on if you can vote on a spouse visa.
Been here 3 years and have a spousal indefinite visa but ird says ineligible. Might be wrong but not sure.
Im not actually sure on that. I'm guessing of we split I would need to reapply for a visa under a different rule. I would assume that's why
Yeah, if you can't keep your visa on your own, that makes sense I guess.
I went TOP because I agree with alot of their future plans, and if they got in would hope they side with Labour - green was my second.
The big parties need to be reminded they aren't NZ, and they aren't guaranteed.
Any policies in particular?
I can't remember but I feel they had some pretty insane ideas. Environmental maybe
I wouldn't call them insane- different absolutely. I'm a bit vague - was meant to have a shot after apocalypse bingo and feeling them.
TEAL card. Gives every under 21 (25? 30?) 3k towards education. I won't get it, future generations will.
Universal basic income. I don't believe in giving every over 16 enough to not work, but we do need the support system in place.
numerous environmental policies and a move away from the big party 3 year reelection goals and a focus on the longer term.
Raf isn't a dick (big one here) although he definitely looked defeated on his small segment this evening and may resign. Hope not.
Yeah they all seem really sensible. I'm sure there was something that put me off them.
Their leader a few years ago was shit - racist, offensive, arrogant.
Maybe that was it.
Had a look - founded by Gareth Morgan (anti-cat guy).
Do you actually think Labour would have built those houses?
Labour - no. But pushing things in a direction can facilitate construction. I've been seeing huge number of subdivisions come in, rezoning and growth up but it takes time and the global situation has been kicking everyone's ass and there is little any NZ govt can do about it.