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House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) called for Republicans to “get their act together” and elect the next speaker while slamming the “extremists” within their party.

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[–] charonn0@startrek.website 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

While I don't hold out any hope for it, a splintering of one of the two parties would likely be a good thing regardless. We need more viable parties.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

We need more viable parties.

Well, the only way to get there is to fix the US voting and representation systems. FPTP has to go, and all important points in the US legislative need to have proper, democratic representation instead of this "Two Senators per state, regardless how many they represent". And while they are at it, make Gerrymandering impossible by removing the power to redrad the district maps at will. You will need an algorithmically method to draw district maps without any influence from race or political affiliation, simply based on the address of a person.

That will be a chance to stop the reduction of numbers of parties, as they suddenly get a voice for their concerns even when they "only" have e.g. 20% or just 5% of the voters. And this will also teach the parties the need to work together in a reliable way. Coalitions and stuff.

Look how other countries do it, learn what is good and what is bad with their voting systems, and implement the best solution that is acceptable.

[–] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That’s not how we’d get more parties with our voting system. If the GOP fractured because of this then there might be chaos for brief period of time, but sooner than later everything would get settled back to two parties. Our system is set up so that it just plain suboptimal to do otherwise.

[–] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's what he's doing here. If Democrats calls on MAGA to unite with the GOP, they can't do it or it'll look like they're following the Dems lead, and they must disagree with Dems at all costs. So by simply stating the obvious path forward for the extremists, he's poisoning the well and making it more difficult for that to actually happen.

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would lay the blame at the feet of the extremists, not the person making a good suggestion.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, but that will not please the idiots that form their base.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago

We wouldn't get more parties. I'm expecting eventually the Democrat party ends up in position as the right wing party and we get a "Progressive" party (or maybe some other name) as the new left wing party. It wouldn't be the first time this happens, but I don't know if it's actually possible with the way media works now and how hated the name of the Democrats is on the right.

The voting system is designed for tactical voting between two major parties. It can't support more. That needs to change. Maybe we could see that as things shift around though. Who knows?