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[–] abraxas@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think we need to understand what definition people are using for "chemicals". They usually are referring to highly processed ingredients, with highly processed preservatives, highly processed artificial flavors (called "natural flavors", but taken for example from the anal glans of a beaver... yes this is real and common). By the broadest definition, absolutely everything is a chemical. Generally, people should avoid any definition for a word that makes the word nonsensical. And also generally, you will find big lobbyist groups using that general definition to shell-game about the specific chemicals they are trying to protect.

When a food-concerned person mentions chemicals, they are referring to things like antibiotics or hormones, preservatives or processed sweeteners with known side-effects. Some of them are talking about isolates, like soy protein isolate to which there are valid health concerns.

And yes, sometimes people referring to chemicals don't know what chemicals they're complaining about. And yes, sometimes people complaining about chemicals are complaining that their meatless burger's consistency comes from methyl cellulose, (probably) completely harmless but absolutely artificial.

The same way some vegans are made ill by the thought of meat, some folks are made ill by flavor- or consistency-related facts in their food. I mean, I think vegans would be concerned to know the beaver anal secretions above was in some plant milks under the term "natural flavors".

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes! I was merely poking fun, but I very much enjoyed reading through your comment. Thanks for clarifying for us!

[–] abraxas@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry, must be having a very literal day today. My wife says they're common ;)

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don’t you dare be sorry, I genuinely love the energy put into clarification and pedantic detail

[–] abraxas@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

That just made my day, thanks!