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[โ€“] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

And here's stupid motherfucker number 1 coming down the hall and up to the stage to prove my point.

This isn't a conversation about your feelings or mine, this is a discussion about the viability of walkable cities for the disabled. And they're not viable for people like that and never truly can be, not without cars. So unless you assume every resident is riding around in a wheelchair and plan accordingly, which you can't do because most major cities were built way before the ADA and similar laws in other countries were passed -- even before the wheelchair and walkers were invented.

What you want requires trillions of dollars in investment you are never going to get. Not unless you do what I told you to. I gave you stupid assholes a solution, but you're still not listening. Why?

Because for you, this is all about your feelings and not about building a better world at all.

You're up in here writing walls of text to personally attack me, like you always do, because all you care about are your stupid fucking emotions. And I emphasize your emotions.

You clearly don't give a fuck about the old people who will be trapped in their houses, isolated and alone, because they can't make use of anything other than a car.

You don't care about the motherfuckers in wheelchairs who you will be effectively imprisoning either.

You sure as fuck don't care about me other than "How can we exploit this asshole's anger to make them look bad and win the argument?" because all this is about for you is winning an epic battle against me that is only happening in your own head, because I hurt your feelings by telling you facts you didn't want to hear, and now you're getting revenge.

I called you stupid assholes and you, personally, a stupid motherfucker and you will not display one bit of temerity or maturity at all by ignoring it; in fact, that's all you're going to talk about because all you care about is how you feel. Not the actual topic of debate.

And that's why I don't like you, and I will continue to be an asshole to you until you change, and not before. Like I said, you need me a whole hell of a lot more than I need shallow, stupid, petty, selfish, emotional and violent scumbags like you.

[โ€“] adriaan@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sorry but reality doesn't stroke with your concerns. Old people are stuck in car centric cities when they can no longer drive. Disabled people are stuck in car centric cities when they cannot drive. Cities that prioritize other modes of transport have more options available to both groups and you're mad over nothing.

Edit: just look at Dutch walkable cities as an example - they're perfectly accessible for old people and disabled people. Sorry but the idea disabled people can only use cars and need car-centric infrastructure to live in a city is delusional.

[โ€“] countflacula@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Sorry but the idea disabled people can only use cars and need car-centric infrastructure to live in a city is delusional

And one of the most tired scapegoats used by people opposing it, we all know they don't give a flying fuck about accessibility when it comes to any other city planning or infrastructure project.