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[–] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, I mean, they could stop cutting the heads off babies. That would be a good start, right? Maybe then they could enter peace agreements instead of starting wars, which they've done repeatedly for 70 years.

I also feel the need to provide a history lesson, because Palestinians are not natives. Certainly no more than the Israelis are.

Before Israel, there was a British mandate, not a Palestinian state.

Before the British Mandate, there was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, there was the Ayubid Arab-Kurdish Empire, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Ayubid Empire, there was the Frankish and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, there was the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, there was the Byzantine empire, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Byzantine Empire, there were the Sassanids, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Sassanid Empire, there was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Roman Empire, there was the Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Hasmonean state, there was the Seleucid, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Seleucid empire, there was the empire of Alexander the Great, not a Palestinian state.

Before the empire of Alexander the Great, there was the Persian empire, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Persian Empire, there was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Babylonian Empire, there were the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the Kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state.

Before the kingdom of Israel, there was the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, not a Palestinian state.

Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state.

Actually, in this piece of land there has been everything, EXCEPT A PALESTINIAN STATE.

Dates:

1937: Arabs reject the Peel Commission to create a Jewish and Arab state.

1947: Arabs reject the UN partition plan to create a Jewish and Arab state. Wage war against the new nation of Israel. Lose more land than the partition gave them.

1967: Israel wins yet another war against its Arab neighbors, conquering Gaza, the West Bank and Sinai in a defensive war. The Arab League declares the "three no's": No peace with Israel, no recognition of Israel, no negotiations with Israel. Israel voluntarily hands control of the Temple Mount, the holiest site in Judaism back to the Islamic Waqf, and made it illegal for Jews to pray there.

1979: Israel voluntarily hands the Sinai back to Egypt, returning land conquered in a defensive war.

1993: Israel recognizes the sovereignty of the Palestinian Authority over the West Bank and Gaza Strip in the Oslo Accords. Yasser Arafat uses it to support terrorism.

2000: Israel offers Yasser Arafat recognition of a Palestinian state in all of Gaza and 94% of the West Bank with East Jerusalem as its Capital. Arafat rejects it and launches the Second Intifada.

2005: Israel pulls out of the Gaza Strip, dismantles all its settlements, and forces Jews to leave their homes.

2006: The Palestinian people DEMOCRATICALLY votes hamas into power as its governing body

2008: Israel offers Mahmoud Abbas once again recognition of a Palestinian state in all of Gaza and 94% of the West Bank with East Jerusalem as its Capital and even offered to dismantle all their settlements. And once again, the Palestinians reject it.

2010-2021: Hamas launches periodic rocket attacks against the state of Israel and builds terror tunnels in order to kidnap and murder Jews while using the people of Gaza as human shields against the IDF.

2023: Hamas commits the worst act of mass murder against Jews since the Holocaust.

[–] sadreality@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well, I mean, they could stop cutting the heads off babies.

And wake news is still traveling...

Do you expected anyone to read this copy paste stript.

Shill account spotted.

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Yup, read it. If you want to tell someone they are wrong it pays to actually read what they said.

What part of the long term and short term history they provided is incorrect - please provide dates, names, locations.

[–] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] TheDankHold@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually, he didn’t.

You willing to amend your position now?

[–] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-767951

The Jerusalem Post can now confirm based on verified photos of the bodies that the reports of babies being burnt and decapitated in Hamas's assault on Kfar Aza are correct.

The photos were shown to US Secretary of State Antony Blinken during his visit to Israel by the Public Diplomacy Directorate in the Prime Minister's Office.

It happened. Are you willing to amend your position now?

[–] TheDankHold@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

What’s my position? That Biden hadn’t seen it when someone claimed he had. So I don’t need to change shit.

Although a press outfit with a long history of backing right wing Israeli positions is far from an independent confirmation so even if my argument was that this is war time propaganda you’ve done nothing to definitively disprove that position.