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Mass protests have failed to bring about social change. It’s time for a new strategy.
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this post was submitted on 11 Oct 2023
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Probably because we haven't had any actual mass protests
I guess that depends on who 'we' means? The September climate protests were pretty big globally, with 50 countries participating.
As someone who has been to protests in the past for various topics, my experience is that the media isn't interested in reporting on them unless they get dramatic eye-catching footage. Which unfortunately usually means just the ones that have a physical fight break out make the front page anywhere.
We = humans
Then I have to disagree. They've been most effective on smaller jurisdiction governments, but there have been a good amount of significant protests the past few years. The Carnegie endowment tracker has a pretty good list.
Physical protests have limitations though like transport to a central point. I suspect the support is greater than attendees.
So your claim is that mass protests have brought social change, and we don't need new strategies, in direct opposition to the headline?
Or are you being argumentative for the win? Because last time I checked our society is Thoroughly fucked right now and there's been no real change of any measurable meaning on a global scale.
Standing in the way of the rest of society and screaming stupid ryhming chants isn't changing the government's mind about anything anywhere at scale, at least not for the better. I'm sure it's influenced surveillance technology however.
No. In direct support of the article body, I agree we need to modify mass protest tactics to create more chaos. Chaos and violence are not necessarily the same thing. It is possible to escalate to something before violence, and escalation from 0 to 100 may not be necessary at all.
The more innocent people who are killed, the more the survivors understandably want their pound of flesh. It fuels the cycle of abuse and atrocities, and we have thousands of years of evidence that murder has had limited effectiveness at creating a better world too.
Also because even if you are protesting for someone's right, that same person will hate you if you block the road or inconvenience them in any way.
As they should. Are you actually "protesting my rights" in a meaningful way if you make me late to an urgent medical appointment? No. You're just being a selfish cunt at that point.
Protesting isn't "causing as much social disorder as possible with a gathering of like minded people". That's just anarchy with extra steps.
Fuck every single person (in the ass) who has ever blockaded a public way without permit to do so.
aw poor baby got his feelings hurt.
IT'S FUCKING NOTHING COMPARED TO THE ENTIRE ECOSYSTEM.
Get a sense of actual perspective you over-entitled twat.
The ecosystem is on the red line. Planet's burning and you don't even want to slow your shitmobile down, surprised you're not one of the 'run the protesters over' fuckwits.
WE ONLY HAVE ONE BIOSPHERE YOU FUCKING BELLEND. I really hope your children hate you, they should, fucks like you so concerned about your own pitiful pointless lives getting hemorrhoids over being late to an appointment because someone's protesting THE RAPIDLY ONCOMING DEATH OF OUR SPECIES DUE TO SELFISH PRICKS SPEWING CO2 FOR PROFIT.
Groups that block public roads are funded by large fossil fuel companies to undermine the efforts of legitimate environmentalists and turn public perception against their cause. It only HELPS further the climate crisis to block the average person from going about their day, and genuine activist groups also know that - many have spoken out against such tactics in the past. Look into it and you'll see that you're playing right into their game by defending methods that only serve to piss off potential support.
citation required for this hilarious assertion.
bootlickers think like this. they want you to feel bad for speaking out against their crimes. abusers assert that their victims bear responsibility. this is right out of the beat-your-wife playbook.
sure thing bud; protest never changed anything, that's why we don't have civil rights laws, women can't vote, etc. brilliant conversation, it's almost like I can hear the twang in your voice, or smell the wifebeater you're wearing. Let's not do it again! Gonna block ya shortly and then go on to live a good life where I never think about you again.
Okay.
You are super duper cunty
I'd say the same to you but cunts have warmth and utility, neither of which you posses.
Classic reddit insult
He's more than likely just some 15 year old passionately arguing online. I wouldn't give him any more of your energy.
done, and done
I see you and logic don't get along very well. Unfortunately for this conversation it does mean we're at a fundamental impasse.
That's ok bud, I understand you lack the critical thinking skills to continue our discourse; good luck with your future in paste consumption and fume huffing.
This. Your protest should inconvenience the bad actors, not your potential allies.
I wouldn't bother agreeing with me apparently, the oil companies already convinced all these morons how to protest, so what do I know...
What is there to protest?
Climate Action, housing crisis, massive debts, pollution, minimum wage increases, racism, police brutality, rich people not getting punished, politicians not keeping their word, corruption, ...
All of those are meaningless to me. I guess it makes sense that I'm not taking to the streets