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[–] cerevant@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No doubt your logic is based on the carbon footprint of two cars - the old ice and the new BEV.

Where that logic falls down is the old ICE becomes a more affordable efficient used car that can replace an older ICE that it blowing blue smoke. Further, new BEV become used BEV in a few years. Used BEV are becoming quite affordable and cost effective. They are also far outlasting their projected battery life.

Finally, demand for BEV increases R&D on more efficient storage technologies that are cheaper and have a smaller environmental footprint.

Yes, more and better public transport should be a thing. But the US is just too big - and in many cases too empty - for ubiquitous public transport to be cost or environmentally efficient.

[–] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I disagree strongly about the US not being suitable for public transport.

There are large cities that could introduce effective metro services and that would be a vast improvement.

Rural areas can remain ICE/BEV.

[–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Show me one State, just a single one, where the majority of Cities have functional mass transit across the entire City which does not take five or six times what a personal vehicle going straight there takes. I'll wait.

[–] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The fact that the implementation of public transport is poor is not a criticism of public transport.

[–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

No it is an explanation of why the suggestion that it was an option is untenable. Which of course is why at no point did I criticize it.

[–] JustAManOnAToilet@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago

After the pandemic you want me to share a big box with a load of strangers? Nope.

[–] Nobsi@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

In the US everything is rural. Did you ever see a map of it?