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[–] JWayn596@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not justifying anything that Israel has done in the past. The main point of my comment is that Hamas made a really poor decision here on behalf of the Palestinians. There is absolutely no doubt.

There is no moralizing or whataboutism.

The fact of the matter is that this caused a divided Israel to unite in anger. And support for Palestine has been cut by all European nations and Australia. Palestinian sympathizers and charity leaders have been among the victims.

The question you should be asking is if you support the Palestinian people is...

What the actual hell is this bonehead decision-making by Hamas? There is no scenario of success in this endeavor unless the Western world decided to withdraw all support from Israel and give it to Hamas.

Was that going to happen? No. Hamas never tried to establish good diplomatic relations with anyone.

The world stage is a democratic club, and Hamas rejected it all. Hamas burned every single bridge with other countries no matter how many citizens of those governments complain.

[–] hassanmckusick@lemmy.discothe.quest -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] JWayn596@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay I'll answer you. It's wrong for Israel to cut power to civilians. It's right for Israel to cut power to military targets.

If military targets embed their infrastructure with civilian infrastructure. Oopsies. Civilians are now military targets.

Palestinians MAYBE shouldn't have Hamas in power if they're going to power their military operations with civilian power. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

Every world power knows that, that's why most have pretty much gotten behind Israel, regardless of any apartheid Israel has done.

The US did the same thing when 9/11 happened. The US did the same thing in Operation Desert Storm along with other NATO countries who joined the US in operations in the middle east.

Nobody in the west complained then, and nobody's complaining now, because Hamas did the dumb dumb.

[–] hassanmckusick@lemmy.discothe.quest -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If military targets embed their infrastructure with civilian infrastructure. Oopsies. Civilians are now military targets.

NO! What the fuck NO! Even if that was true it's disgusting but Israel routinely lies about the presence of Hamas and then never even bothers to doctor proof.

Every world power knows that, that’s why most have pretty much gotten behind Israel, regardless of any apartheid Israel has done.

Lol nah, its because the US and UK use Israel as a FOB. That's it. It's strategically advantageous so they will get behind any lie Israel makes up that helps them keep it as a base.

Nobody in the west complained then, and nobody’s complaining now, because Hamas did the dumb dumb.

Yes they did. Bro lie through your teeth more. And you act like what the US did after 9/11 was a good thing? It fucking wasn't. WE ALL KNOW THAT NOW. We accept that Bush did war crimes. No one argues about that. We don't do anything about it but we all look back and are like "wow that was really fucked up"