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[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then eat the rich? There's always something that can be done.

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I'll be honest friend, I am so tired of that expression. People say it, and nothing happens ever.

There are people doing this. We know who they are, where are they are, and they're literally outnumbered millions to one.

Yet we will do nothing, because of 2 things:

  1. from Kindergarten through schools of economics through all major media they own, they've trained any receptive peasants that their way is the only correct way. Capitalism is human nature. Greed doesn't exist, only "rational self-interest." if you give the owners everything they'll piss it back on you. On and fucking on. And unfortunately most peasants are effectively propagandized into this mindset against their own interests. And when that doesn't work...

  2. fear of losing access to our subsistence opiates. We can't revolt and hang the profiteers destroying the planet, social media will go down, fast food restaurants will close, my favorite drama series might not come back!

When there's a meaningful group of people assembling to eat the rich, I'll be there with bells on, but only if it's there to do more than protest in a designated protest zone with a city permit out of the owner's line of sight.

Until then, "eat the rich" is just a sad reminder to me of how well defeated and compliant we are in the face of for profit Armageddon. Eat the rich? Sir, they're literally consuming this planet. The rich are eating us, right this very second.

[–] whitepawn@reddthat.com 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While everything you say is true, it’s not all scornful.

Some folks work 8-16hrs a day and if they don’t, their child will cry in hunger, the lights get shut off, and immediate needs get difficult.

It’s not all about TV and fast food, it’s about the bottom layer or two of Maslow’s Heirarchy.

It’s why we had riots post George Floyd. People had time (off work) alongside an unemployment check (no scorn as I type that, just laying out some of the contributing variables that made it so.). Hell, lack of social interaction may have brought folks out to where other people were as well.

The root reason can be noble as fuck, but without the right set of circumstances that allows for some assurance of not losing job, roof, health care and such, it ain’t happening, at least not to any effective scale.

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"While everything you say is true, it’s not all scornful.Some folks work 8-16hrs a day and if they don’t, their child will cry in hunger, the lights get shut off, and immediate needs get difficult."

I consider those children hostages to our oligarchs and our corrupt, rigged global economy that causes or exacerbates most social ills.

If you give the hostage takers what they want, staying the course and making them their money, they'll simply take more hostages as their former hostages become compliant capital batteries. That's surviving, not living. At some point, if you don't want most humans to live in a state of perpetual servitude, we must acknowledge that to end this cycle, innocents will die, and that blood is on the hostage taker's hands, not the hands of those that wanted their children to have a chance to be more than capital batteries for the owners, if the climate disaster they also caused for profit hasn't killed us yet.

But as I have said repeatedly, we will keep giving the hostage takers what they want, and pathetically thank them for the privilege. There can be no hope as long as the most provably greedy human beings are also the humans that lead entire world governments and the species around by the nose. There is NO EVENTUALITY where we convince these people to share or slow down their profit. You'd sooner turn lead into gold with a laser pointer than get Jeff Bezos/Elon Musk/Warren Buffett to do something truly selfless.

And so humanity walks into the sea together.

[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Hear hear. I, too, am tired of that phrase, but the recent rounds of unionization and indictments of the powerful few give me hope that the gullible boomer generation, who believed all of their shit because of their selfishness, are either dying or are being replaced. I think it's only going to get larger and more organized the more we're pushed to the extremes.

It might be too late to stop the train from derailing, but their normal placations and lies aren't working on the newer gens. We know America is not the bastion of freedom and liberty our forebearers fawned over and ate up from the capitalists. We have eyes and critical thinking and they've taken everything from us.

The more people that realize how pointless money is, how debt is as fake as George Santos' gold medals, and the rich only hold that title because we believe it, the more they will reap the consequences of their actions.

You are my new favorite person on Lemmy!