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The Israeli rescue service Zaka says its paramedics removed more than 260 bodies from a music festival that came under attack by Hamas militants.

The total figure of bodies found is expected to be higher, as other paramedic teams were also working in the area and Zaka added that the bodies “haven’t all been collected yet”.

Early on Saturday morning, Hamas targeted Nova music festival, a techno rave in the desert near the border with Gaza.

Videos shared on social media and by Israeli news outlets showed dozens of festival-goers running through an open field as gunshots rang out. Many hid in nearby fruit orchards or were gunned down as they fled.

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[–] ubermeisters@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see your intent here but you're going to have to say you killed all the Iraqis and Afghanis who didn't deserve to die in our wars in the middle east, if you're going to say Palestine is the one who did this.

Sometimes bodies meant to represent and govern in fact do not represent while they govern.

[–] TheYear2525@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

you’re going to have to say you killed

No, to be consistent they’d have to say America killed them. No need to switch from blaming a country to blaming an individual citizen.

I think a majority of Americans would admit America killed them.

[–] Synnr@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's quite obvious they were using the royal 'you', as in America (almost every American assumes everyone else is also American in the internet unless otherwise stated).

And they're right, American soldiers did unspeakable things in Afghanistan and Iraq, but that doesn't mean all Americans are responsible for the decisions those soldiers made.

[–] ubermeisters@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks for properly reading my words.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I do hope you'll appreciate that everyone isn't American though and assuming any given poster is is borderline insulting.

[–] ubermeisters@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oh well. There's a lot of big problems in the world and that's not fucking one of them to me so carry on.

I'm going to let you be a big boy and choose whether you want to be insulted or not, I don't care either way, it's YOUR choice.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ironically you seem way more upset.

[–] ubermeisters@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

you mad bro?

-he said to the user, in one last sad attempt to place himself above the user

[–] dx1@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Forget about consistency, this is just flat out incorrect. You're trying to equate two different distinct sets of people, one of which contains the other.

Group A (superset) includes Bob, Alice, Sue, Mike, Cole, Anthony, Tony, Joanna, and Jerry.

Group B (subset #1) includes Bob, Alice, Sue, Mike. They voted for Anthony to run group A and received a majority, so Anthony assumed power.

Group C (subset #2) includes Anthony, Sue, Mike, and Joanna. They form a government and military over/of group A. They kill a bunch of people.

Group C is NOT EQUAL TO group A. Period. No argument, no "but what if", they are two different groups. Note that Cole, Tony and Jerry (group D) are flatly not represented in any way by the actions of group C.