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The Israeli rescue service Zaka says its paramedics removed more than 260 bodies from a music festival that came under attack by Hamas militants.

The total figure of bodies found is expected to be higher, as other paramedic teams were also working in the area and Zaka added that the bodies “haven’t all been collected yet”.

Early on Saturday morning, Hamas targeted Nova music festival, a techno rave in the desert near the border with Gaza.

Videos shared on social media and by Israeli news outlets showed dozens of festival-goers running through an open field as gunshots rang out. Many hid in nearby fruit orchards or were gunned down as they fled.

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[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The us doesn't hold Mexico or Mexicans in an open air concentration camp we regularly demolish buildings in with war munitions for simple allegation with no due process.

I'm going to bet it's going to come out that this is essentially Iran and other countries sending mercs to act as Hamas just as the last major offensive was.

[–] flossdaily@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The native Americans would beg to differ about how the United States treated the people who were here before them.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm talking about Mexico today currently as was the person I replied to, and yes as a native I'm aware how shitty the us still treat its native populaces.

[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 11 points 1 year ago

The us doesn't hold Mexico or Mexicans in an open air concentration camp

True. The concentration camps on and near the US-Mexican border aren't open air.

[–] ThatGirlKylie@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

There was already an article out that said Iran helped hamas.

Tehran is saying they didn’t do it. But articles from wsj and the like have said they did help.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is no justification for what they've done. Senseless violence breeds senseless violence, but we can still blame those who do violence. Everyone subjected to Israel's abuse isn't killing civilians.

At this point it seems clear to me that Hamas is just using the Palestinians and doesn't actually care about them.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're arguing a point I never made. Point to where I excuse the behavior, I'll wait.

Duh, they were an ultra religious sect Israel allowed to exist because they were actively fighting the same enemy, secular Palestinians.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apologies. I didn't mean to suggest you were excusing it, but my wording certainly implies I did. I just wanted to say that observing the geopolitical cause is different from excusing the murderers -- which you've just pointed out.

Israel's far right government and Hamas have an unholy union where they hurt Israeli and Palestinian civilians alike. Too many people conflate this with all Israelis and all Palestinians though :/

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Bingo. Most Israeli aren't zionists but all accounts, most Palestinians aren't terrorists or even Muslim at this point iirc though frankly the religion is just an excuse to be shitty on all sides. Christians need an Israeli controlled holy land for their end days to happen, Islam wants all of the holy land to exclude Jews especially but Christians also, Israel wants all of Israel because a book says so. It's fucking absurd.

[–] there1snospoon@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can you link where that was determined to be the case in their last offensive? Would genuinely like to read this if true.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Tag me if you get something I need to read about this.