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[–] Sowhatever@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That was bad and this is bad. Two things can be bad and saying the second one is bad doesn't means the first one is good.

[–] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don’t really understand what you mean by that.

[–] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What you meant to say is you don't WANT to understand

[–] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

If that is what you think, that’s okay.

[–] Sowhatever@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Two wrongs don't make a right

[–] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, that way. That’s indeed true. But it is very understandable that if one is being oppressed for decades, they will eventually fight back and return everything that’s been done to them.

It’s sad but reality.

For example, why is okay for Ukraine to fight back but not for Palestine to do the same? Both get oppressed, are losing land and their own folk. Yet people complain mainly about Palestine fighting back and not about Ukraine fighting back.

I, personally just find it odd that people are okay with Ukraine siding with Israel in the name of “they are allowed to defend themselves!” But when Palestine is fighting back to defend themselves and fighting for their own right to live - that’s not okay.

It is hypocrisy for Zelensky to be okay with Israel oppressing Palestine but finding it not okay for Russia doing the same exact thing to his own country.

Two wrongs doesn’t make it right, right? So that would mean that it isn’t okay for Israel to oppress Palestine for decades as well.

[–] Sowhatever@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ukraine doesn't gun down shelters and cafés full of civilians and parades mutilated bodies of tourists through the streets.

That's why people support Ukraine and criticize Palestine.

[–] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But I don’t see people criticize Israel for decades of oppression on Palestinian people. That seems to be normalized by everyone nowadays.

What do you expect? Palestinian people to just be like “okay, kill us go ahead”?

Did people forget that Zelensky knew that Russia would wage war on them and he kept this a secret all along because he knew people would leave the country?

[–] Sowhatever@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago

People (including myself) are criticizing Israel EVERYWHERE ad nauseam. Bringing UN resolutions (vetoed by the US), protesting on the streets, ranting on the internet, wearing t-shirts, donating to NGOs...

Everybody knew Russia would wage war on them, there were satellite images published for weeks before Feb 24th, which of course Russia denied. Is /r/RussiaDenies a thing on lemmy yet?

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

People do criticize Israel, but this recent Hamas attack made it hard to do right now.