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[–] IvanOverdrive@lemm.ee 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

I've been living outside of Canada for a number of years now. Up until recently, I actually became more proud of Canada. Patriotic even. I almost convinced myself that Canada had something special that the rest of the world didn't.

That all came crashing down because of three things:

  • Unmarked graves of native kids at former residential schools. 250 in BC. 751 in Saskatchewan. They were just kids. How many more haven't we found?
  • Horsy pigs pointing AR-15s at unarmed Wet'suwet'en protestors. On Wet land. In their own homes. Why? For the gall of protesting against the inevitable environmental disaster that the Coastal GasLink pipeline would bring.
  • More horsy pigs letting the convidiots run rampant around Ottawa, and hugging and kissing convidiots at the Alberta border.

Kid gloves for white people; violence for natives. It crushed me to realize it, but Canada is an ethno-state like any other.

[–] Historical_General@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

On the topic of unmarked graves, a good essay: https://lemm.ee/post/10348169 - https://aeon.co/essays/we-must-not-forget-what-happened-to-the-worlds-indigenous-children

And the standing ovation and subsequent apologism for an SS volunteer not withstanding.

You lost me at the ethno-state. They are issues to be addressed sure and it's good to put them on the table instead of shoving them under it but you can't just cherrypick the worst offenses and conclude ethno-state.

[–] CorruptBuddha@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Kid gloves for white people; violence for natives.

Umm... I'm not sure how to approach this, because I'm pretty sure people don't care about the facts and just want to push whatever political narrative, but here:

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/people-thought-we-were-scum-forgotten-legacy-of-british-children-sent-to-canada-12971791

Also man... The freedom convoy was removed, had their accounts frozen, officers that donated to the convoy were disciplined, and docked pay. At the time I compared it against a pipeline protest by native people, and they were both removed in equal time.

Remember Occupy Wallstreet? Go google Occupy Wallstreet Kettling, and tell me how "handled with kitty gloves" people are.

The thing I can't stand about all of this is Natives recieve tons of support, and recognition in Canada. Like dude. I'm not saying racism doesn't exist, and I'm not saying there isn't generational trauma, and other issues, but just as a matter of fact, in Canada under law Natives aren't given less, they're given more.

But fuck reality eh.

[–] countflacula@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

Not sure I'd be confident linking to sky news and using the term "reality".

[–] xX_fnord_Xx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

It's called Restitutions. It's when white people say 'My bad!!’ and bashfully try and make good of the atrocities they have orchestrated in the past against ethnic groups, more often than not half hearted and poorly distributed.

"Oh shit! We massacred your tribe and stole your children? What? The children had their teeth yanked out instead of getting dental care? Soorry, eh. Have a field house for your shitty little park."

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

The solution as always is to stop electing 'conservatives'. All people want to move hard with reparations and reconciliation with the exception of RW politicians and their white supremacist base. We need to outnumber them at the polls until they have no say.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

I think "like any other" is the key take away here.

Canada isn't any better, but for the most part is also not worse than anyone else in these matters.

That's not to say that we should be excused for doing the bad things (as a culture/society) because other people also do the bad things and sometimes worse bad things.... no. Everyone is guilty. It's a global problem. The names and groups change, the methods change, the outcomes change somewhat, but the story is largely the same regardless of where you go.

The only logical conclusion is that we have a long way to go before the civilization we have built, could be considered "civilized" in any way, shape, or form.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

The internet will always be be telling you that you should hate your own country. No matter which country you're from, it's the worst country in the world. Funny how that is.

[–] Stanwich@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Oh fuck! Did hey acctually bring up one body yet. Must have missed it.