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[–] WatTyler@lemmy.sdf.org 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have to disagree. The man's issue is that he refuses to relinquish this position that he's clearly not qualified for or deserving of. He doesn't get to be upset at the scrutiny when he has never had to play by the same rules as any of the other nineteen drivers on the grid. Furthermore, his mechanics have had an entire season of putting up with his nonsense, whilst the other half of the garage have had to work less and celebrate more.

It's a shit situation for Lance. I don't like to see another human being hurting. The solution, however, is to be grateful for the years in Formula One he's had, and go have a no-doubt successful career in Endurance, DTM, IndyCar, GT racing or Formula E.

[–] leaskovski@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who's to say that papa stroll isn't forcing him to race?

Wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't get paid for his ride and the budget is blown for alonso

[–] WatTyler@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago

I do very much get the impression Lance is pressured by his Dad to keep racing. I can't imagine that Lance is being compromised for Nando though. Lawrence's dream has always been for his son to be WDC, so I imagine Lance's car is on-parity with Nando's.

I can't imagine he gets paid nothing. I've always presumed he gets a nominal salary. Regardless, Lance is going to always be unfathomably wealthy unless his Dad cuts him off completely, which I presume wouldn't happen. Even if he was cut off, Lance now has the experience and the contacts to make a large amount of money independent of his Dad.

[–] Tagger@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think it is fair to be critical of his performance and even to state that one doesn't think that he is performing at a level necessary for F1 however 'Poor baby' as a reaction to his understandable reaction to not qualifying where he knows the car can qualify is an unnecessary personal attack.

[–] WatTyler@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean, play stupid games win stupid prizes? If you're not adult enough to be able to express your frustration in a way that doesn't harm those around you, you open yourself up to accusations of being a baby.

[–] Microw@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Most of these drivers arent adult enough for anything. Much like teen actors they have been brought up through a very weird youth, surrounded by people who would manage everything for them, and never finished school. Look at Leclerc's emotional outbursts, or Russell's confrontation with Bottas, or Max and Esteban...

[–] Tagger@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Expect people to always react well to situations and you will often be disappointed. He didn't react well, but having a modicum of understanding and acceptance of someone's humanity and fallibility seems like a fair expectation.

[–] WatTyler@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I'd be more willing to extend sympathy and understanding to Lance, if we'd ever seen any of that from him to his fellow professionals. How'd he appreciate his teammates humanity when he fucked-over his teammates in Formula 3? Where was his sympathy when he cost Ocon his seat? The seat he earned on-merit thanks to his family selling their home to fund his career?

[–] Sentau@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Where was his sympathy when he cost Ocon his seat?

How are you so sure that stroll did not offer his sympathies to ocon in private. Considering Ocon has remained stroll's closest friend amongst the drivers(and vice versa) even after stroll fucked him over, it is clear that at a personal level stroll did offer his sympathies in some way.

There are plenty of reasons to dislike stroll but being outraged on behalf of Ocon when ocon himself does not have any problems with stroll is stupid.

[–] Tagger@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'm unaware of what happened in F3 - could you clarify for me?

[–] almar_quigley@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just in case he pops on to lemme to read the community’s thoughts on his actions?

[–] Tagger@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I mean, it never hurts to approach this world in a compassionate way. How does calling someone names, in a public forum, help anyone.