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The original was posted on /r/aboringdystopia by /u/bisexualbestfriend on 2023-10-04 15:06:06.

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[–] Chetzemoka@startrek.website 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It's only illegal for them to lie. This fits in the very narrow gray area of what they're allowed to say because technically it's not untrue. No contract in the world guarantees anything will or will not happen. A contract gives you the ammunition to sue the person you entered into the agreement with, if that person (or corporation) violates the agreed upon terms. So a union contract still gives you leverage and power over a corporation, but technically it doesn't guarantee the terms of the contract will happen.

Edit to clarify: I'm not suggesting the anti-union propaganda has any validity. Just that they get away with this because technically it's not lying.

[–] wandermind@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

So basically they're saying, "why would you join a union because even if you manage to negotiate good terms, you can't trust that we will keep our word"?

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

THIS IS THE ACTUAL TAKEAWAY

[–] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

No, you missed it. If there was a strike or an agreement couldn't be reached, in that way, you are not paid by the company & there are no guarantees the union has the money, means to pay you in full or at all. In this (rare) instance, they are technically correct & not lying.

[–] unoriginalsin@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Since non-union workers already don't have any pay guarantee, the only difference would be you have someone who is literally paid to act in your interest that you get to talk to instead of your corporate overlords. And all your fellow workers will stop production to guarantee that Amazon doesn't get any work done until they agree to raise wages.